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Hockey fighting flares emotions - on both sides
Lansing State Journal ^ | October 19, 2005 | John Schneider

Posted on 10/19/2005 10:17:59 PM PDT by RWR8189

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Fighting has no place in amateur hockey.

Speaking as an amateur hockey referee, coach, and parent, the conduct of this coach is ridiculous and should not be tolerated.

This guy should not be in charge of any team. This is not what the game is about

1 posted on 10/19/2005 10:17:59 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: Hat-Trick

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2 posted on 10/19/2005 10:20:06 PM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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He called it "orchestrated brutality."

Um... this is hockey, not golf, we're talking about?

3 posted on 10/19/2005 10:27:31 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("Stare decisis" means every bad decision a court ever made is perpetually binding)
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Another article on the same story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1505713/posts


4 posted on 10/19/2005 10:35:09 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of YOUTH hockey but the pros should be allowed to mix it up. Not allowing them to fight almost always leads to stickwork or other nasty behavior.


5 posted on 10/19/2005 10:37:17 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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"They must learn how to protect themselves. It's a way to get the kids to the next level."

The "next level". The next circle of Hell?

How low are we going to go?

6 posted on 10/19/2005 10:37:49 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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The only time there should be fighting in hockey practice is if fighting is in the league rules - and then it should be practiced by the appropiate players. I don't think most coaches want the Yzermans on the team fighting and off the ice for five minutes. They send the McCartys out there to fight, to protect the Yzermans.

The question I have here is whether it is the Capital Center Pride LEAGUE or TEAM. The Capital Center Pride TEAM is in the NAHL, which is a junior hockey league(Junior A?). Eric Lindros used to play in it for Detroit Compuware before he went to the OHL, so this is a fairly bigtime league. There may be fighting allowed in it. It's considered amateur, but it's probably closer to semi-pro.

Now if it's a local league with "no fighting" rules, that's another story.


7 posted on 10/19/2005 10:40:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My Gov'nor don't got the answer")
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The rationale that the coach gave for having kids fight was that they will have to do it in the pros. I think it's nuts for cities to sponsor these bare-knuckle competitions disguised as legitimate sport.
8 posted on 10/19/2005 10:41:13 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Minus_The_Bear

You can't even compare youth hockey to the pros.

Pro-hockey is about entertainment, fights are a part of the show.

In the pros, you get in a fight you take your 5 minute penalty and get back on the ice.

In youth hockey you're looking at least 3 game suspension and you're headed to the review board.


9 posted on 10/19/2005 10:43:31 PM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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I just read the other story on it. It doesn't sound like a junior league practice. I now agree with this comment.

"This guy should not be in charge of any team. This is not what the game is about"

10 posted on 10/19/2005 10:44:13 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My Gov'nor don't got the answer")
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"I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of YOUTH hockey but the pros should be allowed to mix it up. Not allowing them to fight almost always leads to stickwork or other nasty behavior."

I'll second this...nothing sticks out more in my head than going with my dad to the Flyers v. Rangers fights back in the late 70's early 80's @ the Spectrum. Good times. Come to think of it...there were almost as many fights in the stands as there were on the ice. Those were even more entertaining as they usually involved beer & girls.


11 posted on 10/19/2005 10:56:07 PM PDT by mancogasuki
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To: Dan from Michigan

http://www.capitalcentre.com/

Capital Center Pride is a youth hockey association (also).


12 posted on 10/19/2005 11:05:40 PM PDT by elli1
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How about the kids standby while the parents brutalize each other.


13 posted on 10/19/2005 11:27:28 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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Give the coach the heave-ho. Why do hockey player drop their protective gear when they fight? Seems like it would make more sense to leave the padding on.
14 posted on 10/20/2005 12:36:31 AM PDT by carumba
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To: mancogasuki

The sissification of young men continues, as the Marching Mommies jump in front of their precious darlings to demand they be wrapped in bubble wrap and taught to injure other players with their sticks like the European players do ...

Personally I would run away from home if I were a young boy whose Mommy went shrieking to my coach because I came home with a boo boo. Not only would I never be able to play pro hockey, but I would never get a date with a person of the opposite sex as long as I might live.

Hockey in the 1970s was the greatest it's been in modern times -- we had the same kind of 'fun' at Ranger games and later when the Canucks visited LA, and we loved it.


15 posted on 10/20/2005 4:06:28 AM PDT by KateatRFM
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To: RWR8189

Went to a fight the other evening and a hockey game broke out.


16 posted on 10/20/2005 4:21:32 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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I don't see how you equate sportsmanship with sissification.

There's nothing wrong with a good clean check, but fighting isn't part of youth hockey and it never has been.

Fighting is entertainment to keep people watching pro games, not that there's anything wrong with that either.


17 posted on 10/20/2005 4:33:00 AM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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Rome had it's gladiators, we have hockey. This kind of love for violence is the sign of a sick society in danger of collapse.


18 posted on 10/20/2005 5:36:41 AM PDT by Grig
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ITA, it makes me physically ill. My 14 year old son plays bantam travel hockey. he is team capt and has a couple of thugs on his team, that he is trying to rein in, as it hurts the entire team. The coach is benching the kids that get misconduct penalties. this past weekend, the worst offender was told by the coach not to show up for sunday's game. the refs in this league are adopting zero tolerance for it, and i am all for that.


19 posted on 10/20/2005 5:40:18 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: taxesareforever

hey that is not so far off the mark. many of the hockey parents are every bit the thugs that their kids are!


20 posted on 10/20/2005 5:41:42 AM PDT by xsmommy
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