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To: rock58seg
You don't have to shut up, you just have to be decent about it. Stabbing President Bush in the back while he's under the gun is the most sickening thing I have ever seen.

Good grief, just look at what this country has gone through the past couple of years. Look at what he has had to put up with and overcome. All he has asked is that we trust him until the hearings and then make up our mind, but that's apparently too much to ask. How can you debate something when you know nothing about the person you are debating about? Common decency demands that people wait until the hearings, but apparently that's too much to ask. Suddenly this party is behaving like the democrats with their constant Hate Bush rhetoric. It's become stupid, mindless bashing.

73 posted on 10/19/2005 11:03:56 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: McGavin999
All he has asked is that we trust him until the hearings

No he has asked that she be confirmed. We have asked that she not be, because there are better candidates.

What additional information do you suppose is out there to make her look more judicial?

79 posted on 10/19/2005 11:09:15 PM PDT by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best candidate available, have not helped us, conservatively speaking.)
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To: McGavin999
Look. I have either backed or put up with just about everything this president has done. I and my family have worked hard for him over two elections. We have voted for him in four elections. We looked forward to the day that he would deliver on a promise to steer a new direction for the Court.

When given a chance to do so, he ducked. He picked a fourth tier nominee. In the meantime he is ticking off people like me with charges of elitism, sexism, cynicism. A signifiant portion of the GOP is disaffected. His lockstep supporters take up the charges and suggest that folks like me have never supported him.

If the President and his lockstep supporters want to, they can ram this nomination through. It will be costly and painful to do so. It will only alienate supporters like me even further.

Is Harriet worth it? Is winning on this one really worth what is happening on FR every day?

Even in the best marriages there can be conflict. One spouse can be right and have ample justification for a choice that the other spouse hates. If the spouse truly loves the spouse that despises his choice, that spouse will listen and probably accomodate their spouse for the good of the marriage.

For the good of the GOP and the conservative movement in the US, W needs to let go on this nominee. Maybe that's wrong. Maybe he feels that he needs to stick to it. I would suggest otherwise. He will, through this, go a long way to mending a widening rift.

205 posted on 10/20/2005 4:30:00 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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