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To: wickedpinto
This poor pay a greater percentage thing just does not wash - what the hell does a percentage of an unrelated amount have to do with real dollars paid? Nothing not a thing.

It takes real dollars to run the country not percentages of nothing - take the percentage that illegals paid under the table pay, take the percentage that illegal criminals pay, take the percentage of the very rich and corrupt who use the law to bribe our officials.

Your suggestion that we continue on will accomplish nothing a national Sales Tax will be the only thing that works - read the Fair Tax book by Linder - it answers all the questions, then write your congressman and insist that he vote for HR 25 and S 25 the Fair tax Bills - forget the presidents tax panel they should be shown the door and a refund demanded.
24 posted on 10/19/2005 4:28:42 AM PDT by kentj
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To: kentj

I said I have no problem with income taxation, but I also said the REAL problem with the current tax code isn't the METHOD of taxation, but rather the fact that we give subsidies.

In CHICAGO alone, there is a Company "boeing" that introduces about $500K a year (the numbers change) for being BASED in Chicago, so they got $57 million. The Planes land in Indiana which gave about a $7 million dollar offset from whatever they would have gotten at O'Hare.

Basicaly the taxes and the subsidies, and the Fairness of Paying their share, made something that costs about $1.5 million a year, COST about $12 million a year, because politicians love prestige more than the welfare of the state.

you wanna know about the failure of prestige over prosperity? I Was a Marine, and I'm unemployed.

PRAISE the ideology of moments!

how about we praise the freedom of the people?


27 posted on 10/19/2005 5:43:44 AM PDT by wickedpinto (I tend to repeat, gimme a bit of time to get used to this.)
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To: kentj

You are just outright . . . .well, let me look for the word?


WRONG!!!


I was 15 years old when I first said this. The Impoverished Overpay taxes, the middle class finds out how to pay taxes, and the rich find ways to avoid taxes.

The RICH are the only ones who can hier lawyers to confuse the idiotic, and illiterate, and the deliberately confounded (by their governmental cohorts) to avoid the taxes that they actually owe.

I prefer a FLAT tax, but I TRULY support the existing tax rates for a period of years, as long as there is no deduction, making those who can hire lawyers to pay the Gov, rather than lowlife lawyers.

** Quick note!** I am not a fan of Lawyers, or am I impressed by the deconstruction of society that lawyers like to offer to validate their own superiority. There are MANY MANY reasons NO lawmaker can say, because most of them are failed lawyers, but I will tell you? I having once upon a time being a Marine? Each year we graduate approximately 18-21 thousand Marines, and in that same twelve months our nation finds something along the lines of 26-28 thousand Lawyers?

Lawyers are more popular than Marines? That isn't the fault of the Marines, it is the fault of the people who FLEE service, the people who JUDGE and confuse government. This Nation has SERIOUS SERIOUS issues.


29 posted on 10/19/2005 6:00:47 AM PDT by wickedpinto (I tend to repeat, gimme a bit of time to get used to this.)
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To: kentj

Exactly.

Have you noticed the way some people want to talk about "percentages" when it comes to taxes paid, but they want to talk about "dollars" when it comes to tax cuts ?

Socialist scream that the really wealthy may pay only 15% of their billion dollar income in taxes, while a poor person might be paying 20% of their income. They ignore the fact that the wealthy person has contributed $150,000,000 to the tax base while the the porr person has contributed $1,500.

That same socialist will also scream that a tax cut which reduced the wealthy's taxes by 5% and the poor's by 10% only resulted in $150 going to the poor while the wealthy got "millions". And the wealthy didn't "need" it !

Percentages when paying taxes and dollars when cutting taxes. That's the socialist debating methodology when it comes to taxation.

I personally wish people actually believed that quaint phrase "All men are created equal ..." and limited government spending to what "All men can equally contribute."

Try dividing the Federal budget equally amongst the people. That is what you'd do when splitting a bill amongst friends, right ? That means each person's fair share should be $7,500. Or $30,000 for a family of four.

The fact that few could afford that high a tax tells you we are spending more on government that the people can afford. The fact that we vote to spend it anyway means we treat our fellow citizens outrageously unfairly -- in a manner we'd never consider doing to our friends.


39 posted on 10/25/2005 12:35:08 PM PDT by Kellis91789
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