With Malice Toward None, With Amnesty for All: The Pardon of Robert E. Lee

Newhouse News ^ | 10/14/2005 | Delia M. Rios

[Non-Sequitur]

Please show me if I am wrong.

All more than happy to show you southron boys the error of your ways:

Union Regiments by State

[Non-Sequitur]

It's no secret - Halleck once wrote Sherman [*SPIT*] regarding Carleston, 'I hope that by some accident the place may be destroyed', and that 'a little salt should be sown upon its site<'.

Let's get back to the original claim, Sherman salting the farm fields througout Georgia. Even you would have to admit that neither Georgia or Charleston was covered with salt by Sherman or anyone else.

[Non-Sequitur]

And I suppose that the secessions were recognized, otherwise, they wouldn't have been required to be readmitted.

The southern states weren't readmitted. They were never out of the Union to begin with.

[Non-Sequitur]

Tell me what international matters in 1860 would create such nationalism?

So what do you suppose Washington meant?

[Rebelbase]

Perhaps a recent war with Britain that was 80 years old in 1861?

[Non-Sequitur]

Actually his powers as CinC were not applicable - the US Supreme Court had previously held that uncompensated actions were illegal.

But the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Confiscation Acts passed in 1861 and 1862 which allowed for the seizure private property of those supporting the rebellion.

[Non-Sequitur]

Perhaps a recent war with Britain that was 80 years old in 1861?

Washington was quite clear, and didn't qualify his statement at all. Loyalty to nation overcomes loyalty to locality. Washington considered himself an American, not a Virginian living in America.

[dinoparty]

Stonewall will do this all while sucking on a lemon and holding his hand in the air so that his health won't get out of balance...
Then, alas, just as said wedgie is to be administered, one of Stonewall's own, drunk on a little virgini whiski, will strike him down.

[Rebelbase]

That's nice but it doesn't mean beans to an uneducated farmer in the south. Look at how people "belong" to their alma matter. Years after they've graduated they pull for the home team. There were no home teams in 1861, only home locations as indiviual states.

You can quote Washington all you like but it's meaningless in this context.

[Non-Sequitur]

You can quote Washington all you like but it's meaningless in this context.

You mean other than to demonstrate that your claim that "there really wasn't a concept of "nationalism" in 1861 like we have today" was bogus?

[Non-Sequitur]

Then, alas, just as said wedgie is to be administered, one of Stonewall's own, drunk on a little virgini whiski, will strike him down.

Now be fair, it was the 18th North Carolina that shot Jackson and not a Virginia regiment.

[Rebelbase]

Just because GW made a statement it is instantly "the truth" and applies to all? That is stupidity.

You are an idiot and I'm wasting my time talking to you. Goodnight.

[righttackle44]

"Lee died Oct. 12, 1870, at age 63.
"America lost a great and noble man that day
"Signed,
"A Yankee"

Also a Yankee, I agree. He was also a great
man of God.

[apackof2]

He was also a great man of God.

I know, that's why he was great

As a sidebar, a lover of animals also

His relationship with his horse Traveller was very special

[RFEngineer]

"Stonewall will do this all while sucking on a lemon and holding his hand in the air so that his health won't get out of balance...
Then, alas, just as said wedgie is to be administered, one of Stonewall's own, drunk on a little virgini whiski, will strike him down."

Said wedgie will have already been administered by this time.....

Yep. Ol' Stonewall was a little quirky. - no matter, there was no finer generalship demonstrated in that war than by Lee & Jackson et al.

Denigrate them as you may, military men the world over still study them - you don't have to like it - but they are among the greatest of Americans, and we southern americans love them for their contribution to our history and heritage.

Now, I'll get back to my "virgini whiski" and you can get back to your Chicago crackpipe and reflect on the disrespect you have shown these two great men, these two great Americans, Lee & Jackson.

[TravisBickle]

The southern states weren't readmitted. They were never out of the Union to begin with.

Yes, they were each readmitted, and if I recall, Texas didn't even become readmitted until 1870 or 1871. Each state had to follow certain guidelines before they were accepted.

[detsaoT]

Did you know that your claim is completely false?

No, actually, I did not. In fact, I've read about it in a handful of primary sources (books from the 1870's mainly), and haven't found any evidence to the contrary. What do you have that I've missed? I'd definitely be interested in doing further reading if you can pass me the sources.

Regards,
~dT~

[Alberta's Child]

Check out any online source of information regarding the Whiskey Rebellion. It was apparently the culmination of a long period of chaos on the frontier, partly due to confusion over the "official" jurisdiction in that region. The area in what is now southwestern Pennsylvania where the Rebellion was centered had been claimed by both Pennsylvania and Virginia, and a lot of the folks who lived there decided that they didn't want to have anything to do with a state capital located hundreds of miles away (in either case). At one point they even tried to form their own state, called Westsylvania.

It's also worth noting that while the defeat of Cornwallis in 1781 at Yorktown is often viewed as the end of the American Revolution, the frontier along the west side of the Appalachians was the scene of many skirmishes between settlers and bands of British soldiers and Indians long after that. The last "official" battle of the war took place in September of 1782, when a small group of settlers (as few as six, according to some sources) fended off a raid by several hundred Indians and British soldiers in the Dutch Fork region of Pennsylvania.

[righttackle44]

"His relationship with his horse Traveller was very special"

I'd heard that, but I don't much about it. Nice to
hear.