[PetroniusMaximus]

*** Mark still doesn't specify the creation of what.***

The "beginning of the creation" couldn't be more clear.



***why [would] God gave us brains and the ability to use them, and then covered the earth with false evidence.***

When God created Adam, He create a fully formed, mature male human - not an embryo. Would it be any surprise that He created the universe in a mature state?


***Are you saying here that everything in the Bible is to be taken literally? You must believe, then, that locusts have four legs****

For starters...

Leviticus 11:20-23 is discussing what types of locusts/grasshoppers are kosher/not kosher and may not/be eaten. Now, we all know that all insects have six legs, not four. Thus, the expression "that goes on all fours" is, in fact, a Hebrew idiom - the original Hebrew says: ha holekh al arba, literally "which goes on four".

The Torah in Vayikra/ Leviticus ch 11: verses 20-23 says: "Every flying insect that uses four legs for walking shall be avoided by you. The only flying insects with four
walking legs that you may eat are those which have knees extending above their feet, [using these longer legs] to hop on the ground. Among these you may only eatmembers of the red locust family, the yellow locust family, the spotted gray locust family and the white locust family. All other flying insects with four feet [for walking]
must be avoided by you."

The four types of locusts stated in the Torah are known according to Yemenitetradition to be the following: The "red locust" ["Arbeh" in Hebrew] is called "Grad" in
Arabic. The yellow locust ["Sa'lam" in Hebrew] is "Rashona" in Arabic. The spotted gray locust ["Chargol" in Hebrew] is "Chartziyiya" in Arabic. The white locust ["Chagav" in Hebrew] is called "Gandav" in Arabic.

According to Yemenite tradition as recorded in the work Arichat Hashulchan, the locust called "Al j'rad" is Kosher, and has three Kosher sub-species all known by that
name.

The Halachah/ Jewish Law regarding locusts is that one is allowed to eat a specific type of locust only if there is a "continuous tradition" that affirms that it is Kosher. It is
not enough that the locust seems to conform to the criteria mentioned in the Torah. This does not mean that one must possess a 'personal tradition' in order to eat
locusts. If one travels to a place where the people do have a tradition, the new arrival would also be allowed to eat them. Interestingly, the author of the Arichat Hashulchan
points out that locusts were never really considered a 'delicacy' -- rather they were generally food for the impoverished.




*** Oh, and you must also believe that bats and birds are the same thing.***


It may help clear things up to note that the Hebrew owph (rendered as "fowl" or "birds" usually) may be more precisely rendered as "flying things," in which case the references to "owph" which go on all fours = references to winged insects which use four limbs to walk.

The above identify insects which fit that description.

(Btw, the broadness of the word "owph" also explains how the bat is included in the list in Lev. 11:19.)

[narby]

When God created Adam, He create a fully formed, mature male human

Did Adam have a belly button?

Did Eve?

[Gumlegs]

When God created Adam, He create a fully formed, mature male human - not an embryo. Would it be any surprise that He created the universe in a mature state?

Uh-huh. With fake fossils all positioned exactly where we'd expect to find them if life on earth had gone on for billions of years, stars light-years away already visible on earth, a Grand Canyon that could only have been formed over millennia, and no evidence whatever of a world-wide flood. Please.

That was an awful lot of interpretation to get four legs on locusts. I'm glad that Yeminite tradition clears the matter up -- to bad it's not actually, you know, right there in the Bible itself for people to read.

And it's interesting how God couldn't be troubled to tell His chosen people know something along the lines of "You might want to figure out different words for things like 'birds,' 'bats,' and certain types of insects which really aren't related at all, especially when you're writing down binding rules that your descendants are going to bash each other over the head with."

I suppose it's futile pointing out that Electromagnetic Theory, which is one of the main reasons you're able to post to the internet, is just as "atheistic" as the Theory of Evolution.

[WildTurkey]

When God created Adam, He create a fully formed, mature male human - not an embryo. Would it be any surprise that He created the universe in a mature state?

How do you know? The Bible doesn't say He created a fully formed, mature human! You must be thinking about the movie, not the Bible.