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OU student left suicide message
The Oklahoman ^ | Sun October 16, 2005 | Nolan Clay

Posted on 10/16/2005 11:02:43 AM PDT by MizSterious

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To: MizSterious

Kinda of sweet, fun-loving, all-American kid who lives just down the block. Kinda kid you'd like to hug,...except that he's in so many pieces that's not really an option!


221 posted on 10/16/2005 6:10:17 PM PDT by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: Battle Axe

That makes perfect sense, Battle Axe.


222 posted on 10/16/2005 6:20:41 PM PDT by Conservatish
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To: Peach; PhiKapMom; hispanarepublicana; LibertyRocks

Well, what else can we expect, Peach? Some of us now there is much more to this story but we can't do much in the absence of media support. Unfortunately, most Americans don't frequent FR..........


223 posted on 10/16/2005 6:36:09 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: MizSterious

I still find it baffling that the media will spend days and weeks on things like the girl in Aruba, Laci Peterson, etc, and yet almost totally ignore what may have been a botched homocide bombing. I mean, maybe it really was just a suicide, but that was far from clear in the beginning, and yet they ignored it.
susie


224 posted on 10/16/2005 6:46:15 PM PDT by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: PatriotGirl827

I was so disappointed in Kasich. He needs to go back to interviewing 101 and learn how to ask a few probing questions...
susie


225 posted on 10/16/2005 6:47:20 PM PDT by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: LibertyRocks
RE: "they call everyone not reporting the 'official' theory as liars and hacks." And worse, just look at the reactionary comments on this thread. They were around to try to squash the Ruby Ridge and Waco real investigations by Congress, I bet.

Thanks for the link and your good work. It took years of ridicule and abuse before patriots got enough support to force Washington to get serious about what happened at Ruby Ridge and Waco. We learned most of what happened.

Some in the MSM did a good job with facts and McVeigh. For example the Denver Post. Their investigators named people who not only saw McVeigh and others that morning but tried to speak to them but were rebuffed with some hostility.

226 posted on 10/16/2005 6:53:02 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Bigg Red

You can wear beer goggles, but do be sure to match the color (or at least coordinate it) with your tinfoil hat! Otherwise, the fashion police will write you a ticket!
;)
susie


227 posted on 10/16/2005 6:54:15 PM PDT by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

"Unlike FReepers the FBI doesn't run out and proclaim everything that springs into their minds the minute it pops up."

Unlike immediately running out and claiming that this was a "lone suicide," despite Hinrichs having attempted to purchase ammonium nitrate a few days prior, despite his having blown himself up with a backpack filled with TATP outside a stadium filled with 84K or so people, and having a cache of explosive materials in his apartment?

I see what you're saying, lol. Yep, we've all got our tinfoil hat on too tight (sarcasm).


228 posted on 10/16/2005 6:57:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Rte66

Altho I'm not 100% certain, I THINK the brother was Tom.
susie


229 posted on 10/16/2005 6:58:42 PM PDT by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: MizSterious

It's been two weeks since the bombing, and this is the first time we hear about a suicide note? Give me a break. The FBI got their hands on his computer the day after the bombing. If there had been a suicide note on it, we would have heard about it much sooner, if only to quell all the "rumors". Sorry, but this doesn't wash.


230 posted on 10/16/2005 7:13:47 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: brytlea

Thanks. And he's clean-shaven, too? Shoot, any of them could get rid of their beards in a few minutes, it's growing a new long one that takes time. OK.


231 posted on 10/16/2005 7:23:15 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: laz

"It's been two weeks since the bombing, and this is the first time we hear about a suicide note? Give me a break."

From the sound of this, it's all about putting soundbites out there, in order to manage the impression that the mostly-inattentive public at large would get, should the story break out.


232 posted on 10/16/2005 7:27:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Thank you William.

You made a good point about Ruby Ridge and Waco. Everyone questioning what went on in those two events were called "conspiracy nuts" too... Eventually, the truth has a way of making itself known.

I still haven't written to media contacts in CO, but perhaps I will dig up the old media list I have and see if any of them are interested in the information I have compiled.

Thanks again,
LR


233 posted on 10/16/2005 7:30:48 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: juntos; MizSterious

Thank you. (o:

I just sent an email to the contact listed for the nightly new broadcast that Ms. Kahne is an anchor for. I also cc'd the program director and the faculty advisor. I will report back here or at my blog if I acquire any new information.


234 posted on 10/16/2005 7:33:13 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/15) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: MizSterious

I can't say as I buy any of this. This "note" would have been found the night of or the day after the event. WHY NOT REVEAL IT THEN?

This stinks.

To me, this smells like a bunch of folks going over the entire crime scene, cleanining it and purging it from top to bottom of any evidence that might contradict a suicide, then "revealing" a bogus note that they now know cannot be disproven-- because they have eliminated anything that could disprove it.

And how convenient. A typewritten note (so anybody could have typed it). And not emailed or recorded onto a hard drive (so there is no time stamp as to when the note was entered).

Far-- FAAARRRRR to convenient for me.


235 posted on 10/16/2005 7:38:30 PM PDT by agooga (We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...)
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To: F15Eagle

Why would he be scouting for ammonium nitrate TWO DAYS before the detonation? He obviously had designed and probably had completely built his bomb by then. He would have had the explosives already made or in progress by that time-- what would have been the point of seeking out a different explosive?

The only logical explanation is that he intended to survive the first blast and live to bomb again.

But, then again, logic may be irrelevant here-- who knows.


237 posted on 10/16/2005 7:42:47 PM PDT by agooga (We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...)
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To: agooga

"what would have been the point of seeking out a different explosive?"

TATP can be (and has been) used to ignite a much larger ANFO bomb, made by combining ammonium nitrate fertilizer with fuel oil. Both have distinct, strong odors that would not have been missed, certainly not by the roomate Cheema, and very likely not by those in surrounding apartments. TATP is described as acrid, a "funny smell," a chemical odor likened to a meth lab. ANFO smells strongly, like diesel fuel.


238 posted on 10/16/2005 7:46:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: indcons

Thanks for the ping. As always, Freepers are right on target...suicide note mentioned now? Nah, don't think so.

What I do see is what appears to be an organized effort to discredit Free Republic posters.

Our questions have NOT been answered...until then, I'll keep asking and won't buy the party line.

Notice how it's always the same freepers who come in slamming?


239 posted on 10/16/2005 7:51:07 PM PDT by milford421
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To: juntos; MizSterious; RegulatorCountry; indcons; PhiKapMom; LibertyRocks; Cougar66; Rte66

FYI All,

Malkin isn't buying it either:

"Pussyfooting Around Islam"http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46786


240 posted on 10/16/2005 7:54:14 PM PDT by milford421
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