[Trust but Verify]

It appears that none of the dead were HS students. The 78 year-old bus driver was killed along with adults aged 24, 48, and 51. An 11 year-old girl was also killed. Most likely the adults were chaperones and undoubetedly, one of the chaperones brought along their 11 year-old.

Very tragic for all concerned.

[Honeybunch]

People should know that seat belts can save lives. If this bus had belts that were not in use, lives were lost for that reason. If this bus did not have belts, lives were lost for that reason. Belts won't save every life, but they will save many. They keep people in their seats and prevent them from flying around in a metal container with lots of hard edges and surfaces.

Busses need belts. That means charter busses, school busses and any other type. That some charter busses have them speaks volumes--it is known that they improve safety, and companies don't want the liability of not having them. That most school busses don't is pure ignorance and false economy.

[cherry]

my dad still drives, and he is over 80......I hope he can continue but his ability is diminishing.....

all I have to say is that for all the "RIGHTS" that are demanded by the senior citizens in this country, you would think the word "REPSONSIBILITY" would crop up now and again....

as in, why is a 78 yro driving a bus full of young people in the middle of the night?

of course, we can't question his age, can we....its not politically correct....

and we all know that senior citizens don't suffer from diminishing eyesight, or reflexes, or judgement, or from fatique or just tiredness from the meds they take....

nope...a 78 yro is just as spry as a 28 yro....