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And with this post you truly highlight the differences between the Pro and Anti-Miers groups. Pro Miers groups think it is somehow loyal to stick their heads so far up their President's hienie that they're the first to know he has ulcers. They somehow believe it's loyal to blindly follow him off a cliff by breathlessly suporting his every decision, no matter how ill-advised that decision may be. They someone believe that being a sycophant = loyalty.

In reality, sycophantic followers lead to the downfall of their leader by never calling attention to his mistakes. The true essence of loyalty is the ability to stand up to your leaders and say "you're wrong on this". Questioning a decision isn't disloyal; it's one of the most loyal acts a person can undertake. Disagreeing with the leader of the party isn't a blind, lemming-like behavior, in spite of the projecting you'll see in pro-Miers posts here. It's the followers, who are saying "shhh... sure she's not the best choice, but let's not tell him that!" who are "baaa-ing" their way over the edge.

The failure to understand that challenging bad decisions by our own party is true loyalty while spinelessly capitulating to bad decisions is political suicide is, well, frightening to me. Failure to understand that abandoning principle for party is simply reprehensible saddens me in a way Tom Daschle always pretended he meant. Have we turned into lefists-lite? Are we turning into the party of "who cares whether it's a good decision or not? It's what we mean by it."?

Never, ever forget that questioning the President's nomination is not disloyal. It is not the same as having turned on the President. I can't speak for others, but I can say that I loathe this nomination, but I still support my President. I support him on about 98.9% of the things he does. Just not this.

Now you want to really hear hatred? Go back and read the Pro-Miers posts "refuting" (and I use that term lightly) the anti-Miers opinions. The desperation in their tone is so thick it could choke a mule. Anti-BushBots, sexist, elitist, snobs... but never anything to support her record. Just "trust me" and ad hominum attacks. I started out pretty much in wait-and-see mode on her nomination. Through what I've read on her background, the pundits I've read, etc., I was still in wait-and-see mode, although slightly leaning against. After the vitriol I've read on here from the Pro-Miers crowd, almost none of which has any fact to back it up, I'm now firmly against her nomination. Will I alone make a difference in the outcome? Of course not. But my voice is added to the "withdraw" chorus. Most importantly, it's not there because I dislike the President. It's there precisely because I am as loyal to the President as I can be, and don't want to see him make this sort of easily avoidable mistake.

After the vitriol I've read on here from the Pro-Miers crowd, almost none of which has any fact to back it up, I'm now firmly against her nomination.

I predicted this in the beginning. Allow the Pro-miers crowd to engage in their attacks on those that oppose this nomination, and after enough time-- reasonable individuals will come over to our side.

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BRAVO!

You know you just killed a kitten?

..... It's there precisely because I am as loyal to the President as I can be, and don't want to see him make this sort of easily avoidable mistake.

BRAVO!! (APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE) BRAVO!!