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Why the South lost the Civil War
http://fredericksburg.com/ ^ | 10/15/2005 | NED HARRISON

Posted on 10/15/2005 8:38:50 AM PDT by teldon30

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To: aft_lizard
"civil war???"

Are you referring to the War of Northern Aggression?

41 posted on 10/15/2005 9:29:17 AM PDT by trek
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To: Fee

Yup. Thats pretty much what "Stillness At Appomattox" taught me. Its the only Civil War "history" I read, and only because its so well-written.

Can I assume its considered "very accurate" by historians.

Oh yeah, the whole "bounty" conscript mess is an embarassment to the North. For all their moral posturing these days, very few wanted to fight for their country back then. The more things change...


42 posted on 10/15/2005 9:31:08 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: teldon30

My dad (A Southerner) used to tell me the reason the South lost the war was the yankees stole all our ammunition and forced us to fight uphill looking into the sun..:)


43 posted on 10/15/2005 9:31:14 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Honest officer, I wasn't speeding.....I was qualifying)
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To: R. Scott
Southerners had little choice. The North invaded; they had to defend themselves. With few exceptions the South remained on the defensive.

Yeah! Damnyankees would have stormed out of Fort Sumpter and conquered the whole South if there hadn't been a pre-emptive attack.

44 posted on 10/15/2005 9:31:14 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: teldon30

To quote the late, great Lewis Grizzard: "We could have whipped the Yankees with cornstalks. Unfortunately the sonsabitches wouldn't fight that way".


45 posted on 10/15/2005 9:31:32 AM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Fenris6
Having read "A Stillness At Appomattox"

One of my all time favorite reads. There's a line about recruits meeting veterans that goes something like , "When who thought they were bold met men who were bold in fact, it put a permanent scare into them." Kind of 'splaines the difference between Weasly Clark and Tommy Franks.

I'm amazed at the ineptness and cowardice of the Union conscript.

Well, there were the bloody anti-draft riots in New York. Apparent the good citizens were "brave" enough for mob violence and I suppose it's not too far fetched to think that a great-great-grandmother of Cindy the Ditch B*tch was there pimping here 'grief' for a son killed at Bull Run.

The author has a real grasp on human nature as well as historical facts.

46 posted on 10/15/2005 9:32:14 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: gumboyaya
"Who should be our candidate?"

Not sure at this point. Maybe Petrouka. But certainly someone who knows the difference between Antonin Scalia and Harriet Miers when it comes to candidates to serve on the Supreme Court.

47 posted on 10/15/2005 9:32:23 AM PDT by trek
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To: teldon30

Slavery can be a humane and correct element of a society, but only in a monarchy, where every one is a servant of the crown. In such a society slavery is just the most extreme form of servitude. And slavery can only be humane in the case where the monarch is the proverbial Philosopher/King.

In the United States of America, founded as a representative democracy, where all people are endowed with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness there is no room for slavery.


48 posted on 10/15/2005 9:32:34 AM PDT by RHS in Fairfield
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To: trek

No I am referring to the Civil War, no need to sugar coat it.


49 posted on 10/15/2005 9:33:24 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: onyx

It is a reasonable question actually: who was the last white conservative southern protestant appointed to SCOTUS?

Could this be the crux of all the angst against Miers?


50 posted on 10/15/2005 9:34:07 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: stainlessbanner

ping


51 posted on 10/15/2005 9:34:25 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: Zeroisanumber

Agreed. That is why the North "had" to win.


52 posted on 10/15/2005 9:34:49 AM PDT by RHS in Fairfield
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To: RHS in Fairfield

So god makes distinctions like that? ....nevermind...i don't want to change the topic here.


53 posted on 10/15/2005 9:34:58 AM PDT by teldon30
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To: RHS in Fairfield

"I believe God caused the South to lose because..."

Well, I'm a native Texan, with Bama in my heart, but...

If the South had won, a de-centralized confederacy [or a split North America] would never have mustered the strength to fight the Nazis or the Soviets. "Sometimes I thank God for unanswered prayers".


54 posted on 10/15/2005 9:35:12 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: aft_lizard
"no need to sugar coat it."

In that case I'm:

sending back my fierce defiance and stamping on the cursed alliance!

55 posted on 10/15/2005 9:35:20 AM PDT by trek
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Lee bought a poor battle at Gettsyburg. He should have followed Longstreet's advise and manuevered to the south and assumed a defensive posture like he took at Fredericksburg. It has been speculated that Lee was ill at the time. He was unsually nervous and may have been suffering from the heart disease that laid him low the next spring and eventually killed him.


56 posted on 10/15/2005 9:35:21 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Zeroisanumber

Fort Sumter – in Charleston Harbor – was in an ideal position to facilitate the Union blockade of Southern ports. It would also make a good place to launch an invasion of the Deep South.


57 posted on 10/15/2005 9:35:26 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: gobucks

I have been repeatedly posting that she is a SOUTHERN Christian woman.


Until your research and post, I had not realized how important that factoid is!

Good job, gobucks.


58 posted on 10/15/2005 9:36:31 AM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: Fenris6

We will never know, of course, but my conclusion is the opposite: the freedom loving and freedom living people of the South and the North would have opposed the Nazis earlier and even more strongly.


59 posted on 10/15/2005 9:37:51 AM PDT by RHS in Fairfield
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To: teldon30

60 posted on 10/15/2005 9:39:16 AM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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