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To: Cincinatus' Wife; nmh

Cizik explains the NEA stance here:

http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2005/10/05/cizik/

Interviewer: "Can you unpack this term "creation care"? How does this differ from environmentalism?"

Cizik: It is simply our articulation of a biblical doctrine, which is that we are commissioned by God the Almighty to be stewards of the earth. It is rooted not in politics or ideology, but in the scriptures. Genesis 2:15 specifically calls us "to watch over and care for" the bounty of the earth and its creatures. Scripture not only affirms this role, but warns that the earth is not ours to abuse, own, or dominate. The Bible clearly says in Revelation 11:18 that "God will destroy those who destroy the earth."


6 posted on 10/15/2005 3:39:47 AM PDT by sumocide
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To: sumocide

The quote from the article references Revelation 11:18 y stateing "The Bible clearly says in Revelation 11:18 that "God will destroy those who destroy the earth.".."

This may be an interpretation that adds or deletes from the meaning of the Book of Revelation. Here are several verses preceding and one after the quotation from the Bible.

It might also be noted that some 11 years ago, I witnessed a presentation regarding the ice core data which presented the evidence that the ice core data continued to decrease in modern history, indicating from the lessor core thicknesses that global warming had been proven. (i.e., more recent ice cores are thinner and thinner, ergo we have proof that the global temperatures have been warming over the last century.)

Another professor at the conference mentioned he had also seen the data, but that the data had been collected from the shelf where prevailing wind currents always impinged from the tropics as the first land mass of mountains after the winds had travelled from the tropics for millenia. Had there been global warming, there should have been increased evaporation over the ocean, and upon landfall at the mountain ranges where temperatures were permanently below freezing, rather than lessor thicknesses of ice core data, there should have been greater thicknesses of ice core data closer to the surface.

The conclusion was that this same evidence, shabbily put forward as proof positive that global warming existed, actually condemned the theory, giving justification to beliefs of the opposite.

The presenter of the global warming hypothesis and shabby conclusions had no retort, remained silent for a moment, then proceeded with taking questions, ignoring the comment from the gallery. I've noticed that same criticism went unheeded and not in the documentation through about 2004. Over this last year, several persons giving conservative appearances, have now come forward reversing the findings, but claiming their data states the cores are thicker now.

I suspect this is sham science being perpetrated for ulterior motives. I don't know why, nor am I really too concerned why, but I do report this intereting observation of contrary 'scientific' justification which is more obviously explicable by political motives than simple environmental pseudoscience.

Here are the verses referenced.

Rev 11:14-19
14 The second woe has passed. Take note: the third woe is coming quickly! 15 The seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven saying: The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Messiah, and He will reign forever and ever! 16 The 24 elders, who were seated before God on their thrones, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying: We thank You, Lord God, the Almighty, who is and who was, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign. 18 The nations were angry, but Your wrath has come. The time has come for the dead to be judged, and to give the reward to Your servants the prophets, to the saints, and to those who fear Your name, both small and great, and the time has come to destroy those who destroy the earth. 19 God's sanctuary in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant appeared in His sanctuary. There were lightnings, rumblings, thunders, an earthquake, and severe hail.


12 posted on 10/15/2005 4:08:48 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: sumocide
No one is destroying the Earth.

I guess if you tell the lie often enough, it becomes fact.

I think a lot of these religious leaders keep hearing their uniformed church members spouting what they've learned in school, read and seen reported in the msm. And instead of informing themselves and teaching their congregations, they're brining up the rear and supporting left wing wacko causes to be one of the group.

And I'll take a "wild" guess here, that it's a HUGE $$$$$$ raising machine for churches.

17 posted on 10/15/2005 4:18:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sumocide
Genesis 2:15 specifically calls us "to watch over and care for" the bounty of the earth and its creatures. Scripture not only affirms this role, but warns that the earth is not ours to abuse, own, or dominate. The Bible clearly says in Revelation 11:18 that "God will destroy those who destroy the earth."

From the KJV Bible (currently in my lap as I type this):

Genesis 2:15: And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

Revelation 11:18: And the nations were angry, and thy [The Lord's] wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Just typing the verses that these religious environMENTALists mentioned. Gen. 2:15 seems to concern the garden of Eden. Rev. 11:18 does mention destroying the destroyers of the earth; whether these destroyers are big corporations and carbon-belching industries, I have no idea...

64 posted on 10/16/2005 2:11:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, get over yourself, already!)
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