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This panel is pathetic. More evidence that some things (like corruption) never change.
1 posted on 10/15/2005 12:45:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea
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To: beyond the sea

The panel seems to be moving opposite the way it should: tax simplification.

Flat or fair tax now!


2 posted on 10/15/2005 12:48:37 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Click my screen name for information on my screen name.)
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To: beyond the sea
This panel is pathetic. More evidence that some things (like corruption) never change.

It's not just this panel - it's the whole Big Stupid Government. The damn thing has gone completely off the rails and exists to perpetuate itself and the Republican/'Rat parties.

Just like a cancer.

6 posted on 10/15/2005 1:05:35 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: beyond the sea; Stellar Dendrite

Panel formed by the President, members nominated by the President, given objectives by the President, yet we're being asked to dismiss the results? Is Boortz just being sexist because Connie Mack co-chairs the panel, or is he a Beltway elitist because of the school John Breaux attended? Isn't the panel made up of "accomplished" people, and aren't we supposed to "trust" them?


8 posted on 10/15/2005 1:54:21 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: beyond the sea

My understanding of their recommendation was that the deduction was to be reduced from $1 million to a non-arbitrary number based on the value of properties in each area.

While I have misgivings (serious misgivings about their non-arbitrary number) I don't see any problem with the reduction of the maximum deduction that can be made based on the interest on a mortgage.

This means that aside from people in the top economic stratosphere, this won't affect most Americans. What it will probably do is depress the development and sale of ultra expensive vacation homes and large investments in expensive properties by wealthy people looking for an investment that comes with a tax break.

Everyone else with properties whose interest on their mortgages won't exceed the maximum deductible, which is pretty much everyone but the really wealthy few, won't feel a thing.

Of course - a flat tax system with no deductions would be much, much nicer.

I dislike the "fair tax" system for the same reason that I dislike the idea of a calculation for determining a person's maximum deductible on a mortgage. I don't like the idea of combining government and complexity. It always seems to spawn bureaucrats and eventually the invisible corruption we only find out about after millions or billions have been wasted, stolen, or lost. And this doesn't just happen in government.


9 posted on 10/15/2005 2:01:15 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: beyond the sea

Proves the joke that a camel is a horse designed by gubmit committee.


11 posted on 10/15/2005 3:39:49 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: beyond the sea

As Boortz pointed out in his radio commentary, not ONE of the members of this tax reform panel is a businessman. The vast majority are university professors...yes, ivory tower denizens of a cocoon provided by someone else's money. What in the world was the President thinking when this goofy bunch was selected? I truly think he has lost it. Every House and Senate member ought to be buried in negative correspondence when the panel's recommendations to raise taxes appears next week, and their report needs to die a swift and sure death.


13 posted on 10/15/2005 3:59:10 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: beyond the sea

When the "leak" came out earlier in the week of what the commission was proposing, I was as freaked as anyone.

But the commission has not released anything official yet. They are not even done meeting yet...check the site: http://www.taxreformpanel.gov/

Let's cool it until the report is done. Bortz: go suck an egg until you have something substantive to bitch about.


17 posted on 10/15/2005 5:08:32 AM PDT by PjhCPA (Are we having fun yet???)
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To: ancient_geezer; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; PhilWill; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; ...

Ping!


18 posted on 10/15/2005 5:11:19 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: beyond the sea; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

Don't like the lack of action on the part of this so called tax "reform" panel?

Get on the horn with that Congress Critter and let them know how you stand in no uncertain terms.

Bottomline, change is only going to come about if we fight for it and no other reason.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:


33 posted on 10/15/2005 9:02:19 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: beyond the sea
"the President's Tax Reform Panel"

might have had good intentions like every similar panel tell they get the wake up call from the fed....."all your freedom and prosperity berong to us since 1910 and don't forget it".....click

37 posted on 10/15/2005 9:23:11 AM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: beyond the sea

Thank God a voice of sanity out there... I think the panel has obviously ignored or are incapable of understanding their mission.... which they have failed miserably with their suggestions.


38 posted on 10/15/2005 9:39:16 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: beyond the sea; All
Dissolve the President's Tax Reform Panel
townhall.com
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39 posted on 10/15/2005 9:46:00 AM PDT by FreeKeys ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." -- Albert Einstein)
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To: beyond the sea

"The tax reform panel, having failed to follow its mandate, should be dissolved immediately"

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I second the motion.

Not only they failed to follow their mandate, but by proposing a cap on mortgage deduction they are actually working to complicate the tax code, RAISE TAXES, DISCOURAGE home ownership, hurt the economy -- in other words they are doing the opposite of their mandate. They should all be fired immediately.


47 posted on 10/15/2005 10:44:14 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: beyond the sea
GWB is spending our money like 'a drunken sailor'.
Starting with that $15M to Africa.
Up to the $200B for NO.

So now the suggestion is to raise our taxes by removing the tax credit for home mortgages!

52 posted on 10/15/2005 11:22:35 AM PDT by mickie
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To: beyond the sea

For some insight into what a lot of voters thought about the performance of the Tax Panel, check this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1501413/posts?page=1

And these were less than one day's comments. I can hardly wait to see more.


61 posted on 10/16/2005 12:42:37 PM PDT by pigdog
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