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World's hedge funds face crisis as Refco suspends trading
The Guardian (UK) ^ | Oct 14, 2005 | Jill Treanor

Posted on 10/14/2005 11:30:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee

World's hedge funds face crisis as Refco suspends trading

· Leading global broker admits 'liquidity problem'

· Billions of pounds could be tied up in frozen deals

Jill Treanor

Friday October 14, 2005

A crisis in the world's hedge fund industry was in prospect last night after one of the world's largest derivatives brokers was forced to freeze trades potentially worth billions of pounds.

The move by Refco, which acts for many leading speculative investors both on Wall Street and in the City, followed the discovery of accounts irregularities at the firm earlier this week and the issue of fraud charges against its former chief executive Phillip Bennett.

Mr Bennett has been charged with defrauding investors by using a hedge fund to hide $430m (£250m) of debts owed to the firm. A British banker who has lived in the US since 1978, Mr Bennett has been released on bail of $50m secured on a house in New Jersey, a Park Avenue penthouse apartment, $5m in cash and funds raised by six co-signers of the bail bond.

The implications of the 15-day trading moratorium on the company's Refco Capital Markets subsidiary may be felt across the world financial system, depending upon the size of the funds caught up inside Refco and the types of institutions which are unable to remove their money from the operation. By locking the clients in, Refco, which has debts of $642m, is preventing a possible mass exodus of funds which could further jeopardise its trading position. While the company gave no details of the size of the funds it had tied up in its capital markets arm, it described the operation as representing a "material portion" of its business.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hedgefunds; refco
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To: AntiScumbag
How they ever let one or more customers get into them for $430 million a few years back will be interesting to find out.

The start supposedly happened in the mid 90's. Victor Niederhoffer blew up his hedge fund and when they saw they could hide his losses, it probably got addictive.

Bennet fooled Hill Partners, Grant-Thornton, Goldman, Credit Suisse and Bank of America, and some combination of various exchanges, the NFA and the CFTC.

Yup. The only guys who knew were Bennet, Grant and Maggio, IMHO.

101 posted on 10/16/2005 3:11:50 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Victor Niederhoffer blew up his hedge fund and when they saw they could hide his losses, it probably got addictive.

Could well be.

It should be noted that Niederhoffer has been the object of current speculation that he was the customer behind the current $400 million mess. He has flatly denied it as a comprehensive settlement of all issues save one minor one between himself and Refco was reached long ago.

102 posted on 10/16/2005 3:21:31 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Victor Niederhoffer ... ever read the Malcolm Gladwell "New Yorker" article about him?

http://www.gladwell.com/2002/2002_04_29_a_blowingup.htm
http://www.gladwell.com/archive.html


103 posted on 10/16/2005 3:21:55 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: AntiScumbag

OK You are right and I was wrong


104 posted on 10/16/2005 3:24:09 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: WoofDog123

THanks


105 posted on 10/16/2005 3:25:16 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: AntiScumbag
It should be noted that Niederhoffer has been the object of current speculation that he was the customer behind the current $400 million mess. He has flatly denied it as a comprehensive settlement of all issues save one minor one between himself and Refco was reached long ago.

If he was behind $400 million in losses, Refco would have shut down in 1997. I'm sure he was a chunk of it though.

106 posted on 10/16/2005 3:25:28 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: dennisw
Victor Niederhoffer ... ever read the Malcolm Gladwell "New Yorker" article about him?

Not yet, but I will. Thanks!

107 posted on 10/16/2005 3:26:26 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Moonman62
Wasn't Sarbanes-Oxley supposed to protect us from this kind of thing?

LOL. So was the Investment Company act of 1934. So was the Federal Reserve Act. So was the SEC. So was the NASD. LOL. Need I go on?

108 posted on 10/16/2005 4:12:23 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: dennisw
You are just plain dumb if you think certain big guys *DID NOT* have advance insider information on the REFCO collapse. This was a criminal masking of losing positions by the REFCO CEO. Word of this kind of illegal shenanigans gets out long before the suckers (such as you) can even twitch

Sorry big guy. You are wrong on this one. This whole thing was nothing of the kind.

109 posted on 10/16/2005 4:15:03 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: AntiScumbag

apparently refco debt is greatly discounted now as well, trading fairly near 'certain bankruptcy' range on friday from what i heard. It isn't my market, but it IS the only refco-related item still trading.


110 posted on 10/16/2005 7:02:13 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

From about 45 minutes ago:

NEW YORK, Oct 16 (Reuters) - An investor group led by private equity firm JC Flowers & Co is in the lead to buy Refco Inc's (RFX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) futures business, a source familiar with the matter said on Sunday, as Refco's advisers met for the second day to salvage the troubled firm.

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My guess is that the futures biz gets sold and the holding company and 2 shut-down divisions go into bankruptcy before midnight.


111 posted on 10/16/2005 7:21:10 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag

Further update, 5 potential buyers:

Flowers emerged as a front-running bidder for Refco's unit that deals in exchange-traded futures after a weekend of negotiations led by Goldman, said the people, who asked not to be identified because they're not authorized to comment. Man Group Plc, Societe Generale's Fimat Group, Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. also were involved in the talks, they said

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112 posted on 10/16/2005 8:16:04 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag

You're right. The retail futures business is one asset that Refco has that is worth something. It will be sold. (Since my account is there I would like some resolution soon.). The rest of it will be sorted out. I don't think Refco was such a huge player that any contra trades will create risk on the system. I could be wrong.


113 posted on 10/16/2005 8:17:27 PM PDT by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: AntiScumbag

My deal-by-midnight guess was wrong. Apparently they're not concerned with the new bankrupty law (went into effect at midnight), or perhaps unable to get whatever due diligence done, or perhaps the deal is just too complex to get it ironed out in 2 days.

Man Financial says it's not interested in "Refco" but that doesn't really rule out a deal for only Refco, LLC, the futures division.

Goldman apparently turned down a $1 billion offer from Abadi & Co. Whether that was for the whole thing or just the futures division is unclear. Abadi says he'll sue if Flowers gets it.

The wheels are still turning and the CFTC and the NFA and the CME have to be getting impatient, so expect a sale of the block of futures customer accounts soon.


114 posted on 10/17/2005 2:21:57 AM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag

NEW YORK, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Embattled futures and commodities brokerage Refco Inc. (RFX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Monday it was in advanced discussions with an investment group led by J.C. Flowers & Co. over the sale of its futures brokerage business.

Refco said it expects to reach a memorandum of understanding with the group shortly, but said there can be no assurance that an agreement will ultimately be reached.


115 posted on 10/17/2005 5:48:11 AM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag

This will be a good week to watch all markets closely.


116 posted on 10/17/2005 7:40:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: AntiScumbag
Just heard an old song by Depeche Mode that reminds me of Refco.

The grabbing hands
Grab all they can
All for themselves
After all

It’s a competitive world
Everything counts in large amounts

The graph
On the wall
Tells the story
Of it all
Picture it now
See just how
The lies and deceit
Gained a little more power
Confidence
Taken in
By a sun tan
And a grin

117 posted on 10/17/2005 9:22:01 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: AntiScumbag

NEW YORK, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Refco Inc's (RFX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) regulated futures brokerage is expected to file for bankruptcy protection imminently, a source familiar with the matter said on Monday.

Investment bank Greenhill & Co (GHL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) will run an auction for the futures brokerage after the bankruptcy filing the source said. Investment fund J.C. Flowers remains the leading bidder for the unit

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Since apparently there is no capital shortage and futures trading and clearing have been going along as normal, the bankruptcy filing may not impact customer trading at all. The CME certainly hopes so, Refco, LLC is 10% of their volume. Withdrawals may or may not be restricted, but the auction should be relatively quick and Refco will soon be but an aggravating memory.


118 posted on 10/17/2005 7:21:40 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag
Too bad reporters can't get it right. No bankruptcy for Refco, LLC.

NEW YORK, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Troubled commodities brokerage Refco Inc. (RFX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Monday it had filed for bankruptcy protection as it struck a deal to sell its core futures brokerage business to a group of private equity investors for $768 million.

New York-based Refco said it and certain subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy protection on Monday as part of the memorandum of understanding with investors.

None of Refco's regulated subsidiaries -- its futures brokerage business, which is conducted through Refco LLC, Refco Overseas Ltd. and Refco Singapore Ltd, and its broker-dealer, Refco Securities LLC -- filed for bankruptcy protection, it said.

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119 posted on 10/17/2005 9:49:44 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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