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To: jeffers

What you say should be said in the US House of Representatives.

I never embraced the corruption of this state or the government of the state or NO. Many people down here have fought it and suffered under it. I never embraced those ways nor did my family for the last two hundred years. So don't imagine for one minute that I am in favor of carte blance for the politicoes down here.

But your thoughts need to be said at the place where the decisions are to be made. And keep your personal contributions where you want to make them.

There are levels of response to what has happened here. I suggest that those who live in this state, who are doing our damnest to deal with and love our neighbors are not in a position to engage in the battle to come over this. The Congress is where that battle will be fought and that is where wise heads will be needed. I am under water here as are most of the good people around me. You cannot possibly know what is going on here.

But you need to say what you say where it matters. And you have to forgive me for saying that there is a bullying quality to your post which I am not sure you meant or not. But it is present all over this thread. That bulllying quality is profoundly alienating.

So do your part of this work by directing your comments, actions and influence where it matters. And leave us here to feed, clothes, house and support our fellow Louisianians. With the help of good people all over this country.


181 posted on 10/15/2005 8:52:36 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

If there's a bullying quality to my post, it is because I am angry. To put it politely, I want to line Nagin, Landrieu, and Blanco up and bash on their faces till their legs no longer support them. I'm not a little guy, I know what the consequences of that would be, and still I want it.

I am angry at seeing people die needlessly. I am angry at seeing billions of dollars wasted. I am angry at ot being able to help people who need it, because in this case, helping them will in reality help those who have and will continue to hurt them.

Most of all I am angry at seeing essentially no steps taken to avoid an exact repetition of this event. Yesterday is yesterday, we can't do anything about that, except learn from mistakes and work not to repeat them. This is not happening.

You can do something about the idiots, at least theoretically. The recall process begins with you and ends with you, the people of the state. If this is beyond your current means, then indicate that this is what you wish and we will take it from there.

I fully intend to see that the information yet to be presented arrives in Legislative hands, and it will not stop there. Until it is completed, however, it goes no-where. For now, much shorter posts here at FR are all this is open to me.

The point of my earlier post was to present you with information, to show you precisely where the problem is. Identification of a problem is the second step in the resolution process, the first being recognizing that a problem exists.

If you read more into my post than that, I apologize, and take 50% of the blame. From your posts here, I have concluded that you see a huge set of problems facing you, do not kjnow where to start, and (at least in the case of your and my communications) perceive blame personally directed at you, which is not the case. I know how close the election was, I know what tactic Blanco used to win, it has nothing to do with you.

Something else I hoped you'd get from my post is that the small minority who adhere to the "no money for floodplain cities" ARE in fact in the minority, DO NOT significantly affect your future, and therefore, can safely be ignored.

Any river that drains 1/13th of the country will have a port. Any port will be built on an alluvial plain. Any such port will require people to staff it, and others to support the staffers. This is simple reality.

Additionally, nobody in the US can claim they live in an area free from risk, which makes any such claims bogus from square one.

I do not want to tell you what to do, but I could if asked.

Instead I choose to present to you the following:

1. We can only advise you, you still get to choose and we can't take that away.

2. The "no money for floodplains" crowd is a mathematical non-issue.

3. The "no money to rebuild a corrupt machine" is a huge issue, one that demands attention before all others.

Until the people of Louisiana indicate, loudly and frequently, that they no longer wish to be represented by the failures currently in office, this is as far as we can follow that path.

Until such time as we receive such indications, our options are limited to prosecuting violations of the laws.

We are being held hostage by your government. They are telling us that we cannot help you without lining their pockets. For now, they are right.


184 posted on 10/15/2005 9:22:37 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: cajungirl

If there's a bullying quality to my post, it is because I am angry. To put it politely, I want to line Nagin, Landrieu, and Blanco up and bash on their faces till their legs no longer support them. I'm not a little guy, I know what the consequences of that would be, and still I want it.

I am angry at seeing people die needlessly. I am angry at seeing billions of dollars wasted. I am angry at ot being able to help people who need it, because in this case, helping them will in reality help those who have and will continue to hurt them.

Most of all I am angry at seeing essentially no steps taken to avoid an exact repetition of this event. Yesterday is yesterday, we can't do anything about that, except learn from mistakes and work not to repeat them. This is not happening.

You can do something about the idiots, at least theoretically. The recall process begins with you and ends with you, the people of the state. If this is beyond your current means, then indicate that this is what you wish and we will take it from there.

I fully intend to see that the information yet to be presented arrives in Legislative hands, and it will not stop there. Until it is completed, however, it goes no-where. For now, much shorter posts here at FR are all this is open to me.

The point of my earlier post was to present you with information, to show you precisely where the problem is. Identification of a problem is the second step in the resolution process, the first being recognizing that a problem exists.

If you read more into my post than that, I apologize, and take 50% of the blame. From your posts here, I have concluded that you see a huge set of problems facing you, do not kjnow where to start, and (at least in the case of your and my communications) perceive blame personally directed at you, which is not the case. I know how close the election was, I know what tactic Blanco used to win, it has nothing to do with you.

Something else I hoped you'd get from my post is that the small minority who adhere to the "no money for floodplain cities" ARE in fact in the minority, DO NOT significantly affect your future, and therefore, can safely be ignored.

Any river that drains 1/13th of the country will have a port. Any port will be built on an alluvial plain. Any such port will require people to staff it, and others to support the staffers. This is simple reality.

Additionally, nobody in the US can claim they live in an area free from risk, which makes any such claims bogus from square one.

I do not want to tell you what to do, but I could if asked.

Instead I choose to present to you the following:

1. We can only advise you, you still get to choose and we can't take that away.

2. The "no money for floodplains" crowd is a mathematical non-issue.

3. The "no money to rebuild a corrupt machine" is a huge issue, one that demands attention before all others.

Until the people of Louisiana indicate, loudly and frequently, that they no longer wish to be represented by the failures currently in office, this is as far as we can follow that path.

Until such time as we receive such indications, our options are limited to prosecuting violations of the laws.

We are being held hostage by your government. They are telling us that we cannot help you without lining their pockets. For now, they are right.


186 posted on 10/15/2005 9:28:11 AM PDT by jeffers
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