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To: goldstategop
No wonder people are fed up.

If people are as fed up as you say, then why are they sending the Senators who got them fed up in the first place, back to the Senate? The problem isn't Miers' lack of a record. The problem is there are a lack of a Conservative voice in the Senate to push the Conservative agenda through the Senate, without turning tail and hightailing it to the tallgrass when Kennedy, Schumer, and Clinton ask for floor time. Because that's exactly what the Republicans did last time around when Bush was pushing nominees through the judicial process. Another problem is, too few people pay any attention to the clowns that represent them, no matter what party that clown belongs to.

Conservatism as YOU know it, failed. Conservatism will continue to fail until such time it acknowledges the problem and deals with it accordingly, rather than just adding to the problem at hand, and continually being "fed up".

You can vote third party if you want. That won't solve things in the long run. Voting third party is rooted in shortsightedness.

26 posted on 10/14/2005 1:37:45 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If people are as fed up as you say, then why are they sending the Senators who got them fed up in the first place, back to the Senate?

I'll tell you why: Because people like Bush, Rove, and the brainless trust at the GOP don't want conservatives running the party. They will talk out of one side of their mouth about shrinking government and spend like Reagan's proverbial drunken sailors; they will talk about protecting America from foreign invaders and smear a civilian coalition that deterred immigrants from around the globe from flowing freely across the border as "vigilantes" and nod like bobblehead dolls whenever the President of Mexico has the cajones to suggest that his expatriates should be given rights of American citizens; they play on the emotions of the faithful, family values crowd while cutting off funds to legitimate social conservatives like Pat Toomey; and they will, after luring the most ardent, hardcore of their own flock to their side, bring in a wolf in sheep's clothing like Harriet Miers.

For supposed supergenius Karl Rove, it's all about winning. That's how he made his reputation and his money. He's got the GOP in control of the Executive and the Legislative, even though he's had to install wishy-washy types to get the job done. And with the affirmation of Roberts, he's got his first Supreme notch in his belt, and now he's "swinging" for the fences. In the event that Miers is indeed confirmed, it may not be long before we discover that the "victory" over the Judicial was of the pyrrhic variety.

30 posted on 10/14/2005 2:36:19 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Harriet Miers < John Roberts < Antonin Scalia. Do the math. http://lnsmitheeblog.blogspot.com)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Good posts all the way around. I am amazed at the hysteria about her and we have not yet her her testify. The same core group that condemned Roberts are after Miers- remember the "Roberts is Souter" arguments? Then he testified and that ended that. We have not yet heard from her but some are more than willing to stamp innuendo as fact, like the "Roberts supports the gay agenda" based on his law firm work.

I have been around FR for a long time, also as Beekeeper, so this irrationality is nothing new. We all have bad days. It will pass in one way or another, but I fear that the appointment process for judges will be fully in the "Bork" mode since "conservatives" have accepted it as a technique. At least the dems allowed Bork to testify.


39 posted on 10/14/2005 4:21:49 AM PDT by KeyWest
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