Posted on 10/13/2005 12:14:34 PM PDT by SmithL
The military really doesn't trust the troops with guns. Privately owned guns have to be kept in the armory and even those soldiers (and anyone else) desiring to hunt or target shoot on post must register them with the provost marshal.
Military owned weapons are of course kept in the armory, and must generally be unloaded, except when on the range. Live ammo must be accounted for.
But obviously, in spite of all that, some wackos manage to get guns and/or live ammo anyway, and then for a while, they have target rich and threat poor environment.
Lucky for them he couldn't shoot, because that .357, espeically if loaded with expanding type bullets (ie. hollow points), would cause a lot more damage than the issue sidearm, which is a 9mm, and if firring issue FMJ ammo, just pokes 9mm holes, whereas the .357 with hollow points would make 9mm holes going in, and probably about 12-13 mm going out (9mm == .354 inches). If they went out that is, chances are they would shed part of the jacket inside, and the main part of the bullet might not exit either. All that energy would have been dumped inside the "target".
Great call- I lean to thinking that he will be a black mooslim, American born and raised.
How many guys on even a large post are armed and have live ammo? Not very many. All but the MPs will be on the range. When they are out training in the field, they have blanks and MILES gear. (military version of laser tag, actually laser tag is the civilian version of MILES gear :) ). If they are just going about their business on post, they will be completely disarmed and at the mercy of a idiot like this ... well until they get organized that is.
I'm sure that's true, but the Air Force Times does not. I'm sure the article appeared in the other * Times papers as well.
The rules have changed in some places. You do not have to register a privately owned weapon if you live off post at Ft Bragg. I checked before I took my new AR15 out to the Rod & Gun Club to zero it the other week.
It does have to be transported correctly. Like in the trunk and unloaded.
Mad because he failed Basic Rifle Marksmanship?
Thanks so much:) I'm on Tonk's ping list..I'll stop in!
Thanks:) I didn't mean to be an ole stick-n-the-mud...we army moms are a fiercesome group when it comes to our soldiers!
Private Hatfield shooting at Private McCoy?
A possible terrorist attack on American soil seems like breking news to me.
The fact that they still haven't released his name after two days speaks volumes. Maybe he was a lone looney. Maybe he's a white Christian terrorist. Most of us on this thread suspect otherwise.
My wife just read your post and hurt herself laughing. I showed her your original article and your other posts and her opinion is that you are an anti-military loon. I tried to convince her otherwise, but dude, she wouldn't buy it.
Let me know how many years she's spent riding submarines, and then I'll decide whether I care about her opinion.
Did they lock you in the WRTs
I've seen the insides of the WRTs, but have never actually been in one.
Really?!?! I didn't know that before.
Really, although PeteB570 reports that on some posts they have relaxed the rules to the point where you can transport to the range from off post without registering your firearms. When I was in the Air Force we could do that as well. Although the only range we had non-duty access to was the trap and skeet range, and only those who needed to qualify had duty access to the rifle and pistol range, AFAIK, I might be wrong about that, because back in the dark ages, I only had a shotgun. And in those same days of yore, most air force people did not need to qualify, except at basic or officer's initial training, although proportionally more officers than enlisted did need to, if only with a handgun, since the majority of flight crews are officers. Things have changed since then, both with me, and for the Air Force. For one thing, neither of my shotguns will fit in my center console, or in a pocket or in the small of my back. Nor will any of my rifles, not even the M-1 Carbine, but one of my .45s will and does.
The standard issue weapon is a rifle.
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