Posted on 10/13/2005 7:02:45 AM PDT by Eurotwit
The author Molly Watson sounds like she needs to hang with that pissed off chick Wurtzel who did Prozac Nation.
They can revel in one another's acid neurosis.
Wurtzel is sorta hot though.
Isn't Wurtzel's latest called Bitch?
lol
Thanks, Mr. J. Here is the strawman that I encounter all the time, and it's mentioned in my Savage Nation radio demo as you not.
Simply, there is no reason to believe that any man will be necessarily 'settling' for an inferior female. Why is a woman 10 years her junior assumed to be 'far short' an intellectual (and I have to add, emotional) equal? One doesn't necessarily follow the other.
There is an almost pathological need for women in this niche to put down their younger sexual rivals as somehow inferior to them. In some cases, that's true. In other cases, it's not. I'm reminded of a friend of mine who is in his late 40s and had another romance implode. "But I learned something!" Well einstein, what the hell did you learn from this meltdown that you didn't learn from the last 18?
There comes a point of diminishing returns: I think the years between 20 and 25 add a lot of maturity in most women. I think the decade between 25 and 35 adds some maturity, but it's not a significant amount vis a vis romance and relationships. There is certainly no reason to think a 25 year old woman who has her act together is notably inferior to a 35 year old woman with more misadventures under her belt.
The example of millions of women suggests otherwise.
I don't mind people's thinking I'm stuffy.
I made an interpretation based on the text of an article, and whether I'm right or wrong is (1) impossible to determine, as the author has apparently not reproduced since the article was published, and (2) not going to affect whatever the facts might be.
Good link and it is fascinating
Thanks Tax-chick, this kind of stuff is a pet peeve of mine, too. There is an amazing tendency in modern speech, conversation, and writing, to pepper the prose with little asides like that. In fact, many of those asides make no sense at all, but they create the impression that the writer or speaker is sophisticated.
If you ever want to have fun with someone, nicely follow up on these things. Much more often than not, you get that 'deer in the headlights' look that I often get whenever I ask people a 'real' question. :-)
Good point. Perhaps the author was using "we" to mean "I" ...
I've got a 3-year old here who wants to go on a chestnut hunt, so I'm off for a spell. Enjoy this lovely autumn weather, everyone!
I'm with you. Nope. :-)
Let's not forget, a man's career would be advanced by having a wife and kids to support. If a boss was deciding between two applicants, the married guy would get it. Families were there to help a young couple out. In my family, they'd have a house-raising, a barn raising (usually in the opposite order), and every new couple got a goat.
Now, not only does a man pay no price for sex, he pays no price economically. In the old days, a guy who could provide for a family, who choose not to be married was weird or even considered sinful by some. Society, in general, has taken ALL the pressures off young men to grow up.
I take that back. Society has actually made it a negative for a man to settle down. Young men are bombarded with horror stories about divorce and married men are universally portrayed as dumb fat jerks who's wives have to carefully direct and manage. The message is clear. If you are dumb enough to get married you will pay a heavy price.
this is crap, IMHO. while this is the case in maybe LA and where i live in NYC, this is not the case in much of fly-over country. or is it? i don't know.
Yes, it does tend to throw people off when you treat them as if they're using words to some purpose other than the production of noise.
She doesn't want to come out and say, "Shacking up is the same as marriage," because that's provably false in terms of the long range (or even short range) outcome, especially for children ... but she also doesn't want to be old-fashioned or judgmental and say that parents should be married to each other ... ah, the trials of a modern "journalist."
You need to work at it..it requires effort.
Anything worth while is worth working for.
If it rquires work, then you might as well forget it for most people.
It even hurts them at work in some cases - the "married guy" being seen as less willing to work the 70-hour-weeks often expected of twentyish professionals trying to work their way up. Plus the company is on the hook for higher health-care expenses for two people plus future children.
As you point out, being married used to be an asset to a job-seeker - no longer.
It was men who created the institutions of marriage and family. Females had no say about it. Why should we now expect that females will preserve the institutions of marriage and family?
In fact, females haven't, and they won't. Females will unwittingly destroy marriage and family in pursuit of their short-term emotions. A female's emotional constitution governs her desires and decisions, and her emotions are short-term, not long term. Given financial security and free latitude, females will seek emotional intimacy with a man in the near term. They have and will reject marriage and family because those involve a life-long interaction with a man offering only interludes of intimacy. A female's emotional state lasts only 30-45 minutes and those brief interludes in marriage will never suffice.
That is why once we gave females the power to destroy marriage and family, they began immediately destroying it.
DA740
Your prediction is already happening. Wiser mid-twenties women are already looking to trade up from their perpetually adolescent "peers". This is a glorious time to be a man in his early 40's...LOL!
In my experience, it may not be a lack of nerve but rather a lack of faith in marriage in general.
But faced with a generation of emotionally immature men who seem to view marriage as the last thing they’ll do before they die.
I think the main reason that men refuse to pull the trigger is a realization that the deck is completely stacked against them. Most have friends who married young and got burned with years of spousal and child support.
Sad to say but marriage can be a very poor financial investment. No fault devoice has largely destroyed the institution.
I can't wait. It's getting so close I can taste it!
One question though... Does that come with a trolling motor? ;-)
I made an interpretation based on the text of an article, and whether I'm right or wrong is (1) impossible to determine, as the author has apparently not reproduced since the article was published, and (2) not going to affect whatever the facts might be.
M'thinks you are in serious need of a raspberry in your armpit. ;-)
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