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High court says execute Crips founder (Stanley "Tookie" Williams)
AP - San Diego Union Tribune ^ | Oct 11, 2005 | David Kravets

Posted on 10/11/2005 4:29:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: calcowgirl

Maybe he can take cop killer Mumia with him when he goes.


41 posted on 10/11/2005 5:17:36 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: calcowgirl
Image hosted by Photobucket.com BURN that POS!!!
42 posted on 10/11/2005 5:18:08 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: calcowgirl
Know Gangs would like to remind all, for every one person like Williams, there are hundreds of others who grew up in the same environment with the same problems, struggles and trials, who instead dedicated their lives to helping others rather than gangs, drugs and victimizing the weak. It is those people who escaped the gang infested neighborhoods that deserve our respect and support not a four-time murderer.
43 posted on 10/11/2005 5:22:14 PM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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To: ThanhPhero
Yeah. That's pretty much how I feel. He has at least tried to undo some of the harm he did. He has repented for his gang activities and changed his behavior I give him props for that.

I am ambivalent about executing him, but I think it is the appropriate action. Life is sometimes messy, and the best path is seldom the easy one...

44 posted on 10/11/2005 5:23:35 PM PDT by null and void (Bringing Faith to the Doubtful, and Doubt to the Faithful)
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To: The KG9 Kid

LOL

Black online buddy from Philly told me that if I wore my "Fry Mumia" t-shirt there, I could drive as fast as I wanted, and get off with no more than a warning. He agrees with the sentiment, by the way.

http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/shirtsquare-mumia.jpg


45 posted on 10/11/2005 5:23:43 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: calcowgirl; BenLurkin; reagan_fanatic; Mr. Jeeves; Rightwing Conspiratr1; The KG9 Kid; Publius; ...
Thursday :: August 04, 2005

Bush Sends Commendation Letter to Gang Leader on Death Row

President Bush has sent a letter, accompanying an award, to the founder of the Crips gang who is on Death Row in California.

The letter praises death row inmate Stanley "Tookie" Williams for demonstrating "the outstanding character of America." ___________________________________________________________

I understand sometime after the letter and award was sent, the White House was trying to figure out who Tookie was, and what they should do now....

OHHHHH!!!

46 posted on 10/11/2005 5:24:03 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: tamalejoe

He founded the Crips.

This is not a debate. Therefore, he is the founder of a domestic terrorist organization.

I'm pretty sure he's guilty too. There's other evidence out there.


47 posted on 10/11/2005 5:24:30 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Maintain innocence in the brutal slayings that everyone knows he committed.

I'm not even sure there's that. He claims inadequate defense and prosecutorial misconduct, but never actual innocence that I can see.

48 posted on 10/11/2005 5:27:35 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: calcowgirl

Whole lotta good "redemption" did Carla Faye Tucker.


49 posted on 10/11/2005 5:27:39 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: P.O.E.

Self-edit: That should have been in quotes, being a snip directly from the website.


50 posted on 10/11/2005 5:28:00 PM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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To: ChuckHam

Oh and don't forget about David Westerfield too!!!
(sarcasm also off now)


51 posted on 10/11/2005 5:28:08 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: tamalejoe

1. If the Ninth Circus Court failed to overturn the conviction of a black man convicted by an all-white jury, it must be pretty solid. That's the most liberal court in the country.

2. "The present adversarial system of justice would have to be scrapped in favor of an inquisitorial system in which the common incentive for all parties involved would be to arrive at the truth and facts of the matter."

With yourself as Grand High Inquisitor, I suppose?
Will you please reread and think carefully about that statement?
Hey, it ain't perfect, but our system of justice is still the best in the world. As Ben Franklin said, "It is better that a hundred guilty men go free than that one innocent man be condemned." It is the adversarial system that ensures that the rights of the accused are protected.
When the defense attorney tries every dirty trick in the book to get their client off, goes after the credibility of the witnesses and the cops, questions the evidence, the testimony, everything- and the jury still convicts- that's when the system works.
This being said, we have to make sure defense counsel is competent, and that prosecutors follow the rules. When these do not occur, there is room for error.


52 posted on 10/11/2005 5:31:51 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Hey, Salada! I need a new Tagline!)
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To: BenLurkin

Juice him.... Juice him good!


53 posted on 10/11/2005 5:33:21 PM PDT by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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To: calcowgirl

"While in San Quentin State Prison, Williams has been nominated five times for a Nobel Peace Prize and four times for the Nobel Prize for literature"

The Nobel prize has all the credibility of an Al Sharpton endorsement anymore.


55 posted on 10/11/2005 5:43:04 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: BenLurkin

Good one!


56 posted on 10/11/2005 5:43:40 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Publius Valerius
Yeah, he's really living the high life on death row. Man, free Internet? Those guys have it great.

Just what do you expect a killers lifestyle in prison to be? No prisoner should have TV at my expense. This guy is a killer and should have been dead long ago. The fact that he is still alive means he is living better than he deserves. Death to all murderers, the sooner the better.

58 posted on 10/11/2005 5:46:33 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Skywalk

If you're gonna hang the guy hang him for something you can prove. Four jailbirds testifying to something doesn't prove anything other than that some police official got four jailbirds to say something.


59 posted on 10/11/2005 5:49:10 PM PDT by tamalejoe
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To: calcowgirl
A murderer needs to be put to death. The ultimate evil must be punished exactly befitting his crime. I don't care if he's famous; he's still gotta pay.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
60 posted on 10/11/2005 5:50:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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