Posted on 10/11/2005 8:12:32 AM PDT by blogblogginaway
Only VOTERS can keep Hillary out of the White House. And unified like that, I fear another Ross Perot or other 3rd party sucking up Repbulican votes putting her in, but asie from that, the voting General public will keep Hillery out. It is way to early though to speculate to much over it though. 08 is a long way away as politics are concerned, things often change overnight.
A lot of times I agree with Morris' political analysis, but he's just dead wrong here. While of course Condi would be a popular choice, John McCain and Rudy Guiliani could easily beat her too. The thing is, Hillary has a real upward climb to capture enough red state votes to take an electoral majority. Where in the South is Hillary going to possibly take any Bush states? She will be hard-pressed to hold Midwestern states Kerry won like Minnesota and Wisconsin. Not that we should underestimate Hillary. We can ill-afford a piss poor candidate who's little known, like the feckless poorly spoken Sen. George Allen or the capable but too milk toast Bill Frist, to go up against a strong powerhouse like Hillary. We'll need to select a star from our party too. But if we give the country a good alternative Hillary is imminently beatable because the electoral math is not favorable for her.
Team Bush is tainted now. The only way to get the nomination now is to be non-Bush.
Cheney/Rice in 2008
You need more than a solid South and a solid Mountain West to win. You need a few swing states like Ohio too.
So, not much of a chance then, I take it?
I think...Hill has to much to hide, while being Senator is high profile...it's not the highest office in the land. If she runs for POTUS she will expose her stance on issues as well as the smoke and mirrors, which is her background.
She has stayed popular by use of double speak and somewhat of a nebulous stance on certain issues. Remember, it's the press that continues to trumpet her siren call...even if the "masses" of her support are no where to be found. In all honesty, I dont "think" she has altogether overwhelming popular support within her own party, but with the media as it is...it's hard to gauge.
IMHO she never makes it out of the primaries...she's not a winner on the national level, and I think the democrats, at least the sober/rational ones, know that.
Too many people will come out of the woodwork to make sure this pariah never sees the oval office.
The democrats are just fantasizing with their jurno-tools in the media, every time her name is brought up as a presidential candidate.
Sounds like another Bush-Gore - lose-lose for conservatives.
Point to Ms. Rice. Now for the all important Legs Competition.
He agrees with you. He just doesn't think they can make it through the primaries. He's right.
How does Hillary win the Democratic nomination? She isn't a hardline antiwar candidate, so she's not liked among the DU/Sheehan crowd. The unions are split now, and her pro-NAFTA position probably insures that she won't get a solid backing of all the union groups. She simply isn't believable playing the "I'm the one who can win" card, since Democrats know that a lot of groups hate her.
Because of her gender and her "for the children" spiel, she'll do well among suburban women who aren't angry enough to be DU/Sheehan types. That will win her a few states, but not enough to win the nomination.
I'm still betting it will be John Edwards. Imagine John and Elizabeth going on Oprah. They could talk about Elizabeth's experience with cancer and how it made them realize how we need to make health care more about the patient and less about the money, blah, blah, blah. Now on FR, we know that's manipulative garbage, but I think that would sell well among a large sector of Democratic voters.
(I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary is going to doctors right now and saying "Is there a way you can give me some kind of disease that I won't die from and will have a difficult but ultimately successful recovery? I need to be well by the end of 2007. I have to match Elizabeth in this area.")
I will concede that Ohio is in play if it gets a dem governor.
I was thinking Newt Gingrich and George Allen, however, I like your choice better--George and Condi...ALLEN/RICE...that's it!
As of the moment I wouldn't vote for either of them.
The American people didn't know the Clintons at all in `92, but we know them very well now.
'Halloween, Hillary, The Sequel'? Ain't gonna happen--no way, Jose.
He is a crack head.
The polls show at least in Guiliani's case he's wrong. Right now in the last poll I showed Guiliani was on top with McCain not far behind.
The polls show at least in Guiliani's case he's wrong. Right now in the last poll I saw it showed Guiliani was on top with McCain not far behind.
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