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Condi vs. Hillary? (New book sez only Rice could keep Clinton from White House)
new york daily news via drudge ^ | Oct. 11, 2005 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 10/11/2005 8:12:32 AM PDT by blogblogginaway

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To: blogblogginaway
"...only Rice could keep Clinton from White House."

Only VOTERS can keep Hillary out of the White House. And unified like that, I fear another Ross Perot or other 3rd party sucking up Repbulican votes putting her in, but asie from that, the voting General public will keep Hillery out. It is way to early though to speculate to much over it though. 08 is a long way away as politics are concerned, things often change overnight.

21 posted on 10/11/2005 8:52:30 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: blogblogginaway

A lot of times I agree with Morris' political analysis, but he's just dead wrong here. While of course Condi would be a popular choice, John McCain and Rudy Guiliani could easily beat her too. The thing is, Hillary has a real upward climb to capture enough red state votes to take an electoral majority. Where in the South is Hillary going to possibly take any Bush states? She will be hard-pressed to hold Midwestern states Kerry won like Minnesota and Wisconsin. Not that we should underestimate Hillary. We can ill-afford a piss poor candidate who's little known, like the feckless poorly spoken Sen. George Allen or the capable but too milk toast Bill Frist, to go up against a strong powerhouse like Hillary. We'll need to select a star from our party too. But if we give the country a good alternative Hillary is imminently beatable because the electoral math is not favorable for her.


22 posted on 10/11/2005 8:58:11 AM PDT by MikeA
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To: blogblogginaway

Team Bush is tainted now. The only way to get the nomination now is to be non-Bush.


23 posted on 10/11/2005 8:58:13 AM PDT by sine_nomine (CBS' Mary Mapes: "It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad.")
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To: blogblogginaway

Cheney/Rice in 2008


24 posted on 10/11/2005 8:58:32 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: joesnuffy
"his toe-sucking fetish" Mmmmmmmm. To each his own.
25 posted on 10/11/2005 8:59:28 AM PDT by mlbford2 (I love my Semis, but for me they are for the range. My life is protected by my S&W revolver.)
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To: OldFriend
Cause all the men and women in the South who wouldn't vote for Jeffin Kerry would vote for her heinous?

You need more than a solid South and a solid Mountain West to win. You need a few swing states like Ohio too.

26 posted on 10/11/2005 9:00:08 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"If Rice would repudiate the Council on Foreign Relations, resign her membership and denounce the planned North American Community, I might vote for her. "

So, not much of a chance then, I take it?

27 posted on 10/11/2005 9:00:17 AM PDT by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: threeleftsmakearight


I think...Hill has to much to hide, while being Senator is high profile...it's not the highest office in the land. If she runs for POTUS she will expose her stance on issues as well as the smoke and mirrors, which is her background.

She has stayed popular by use of double speak and somewhat of a nebulous stance on certain issues. Remember, it's the press that continues to trumpet her siren call...even if the "masses" of her support are no where to be found. In all honesty, I dont "think" she has altogether overwhelming popular support within her own party, but with the media as it is...it's hard to gauge.

IMHO she never makes it out of the primaries...she's not a winner on the national level, and I think the democrats, at least the sober/rational ones, know that.

Too many people will come out of the woodwork to make sure this pariah never sees the oval office.

The democrats are just fantasizing with their jurno-tools in the media, every time her name is brought up as a presidential candidate.


28 posted on 10/11/2005 9:03:35 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: blogblogginaway

Sounds like another Bush-Gore - lose-lose for conservatives.


29 posted on 10/11/2005 9:04:31 AM PDT by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: Made in USA

Point to Ms. Rice. Now for the all important Legs Competition.


30 posted on 10/11/2005 9:06:20 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: MikeA
John McCain and Rudy Guiliani could easily beat her too.

He agrees with you. He just doesn't think they can make it through the primaries. He's right.

31 posted on 10/11/2005 9:06:26 AM PDT by vikzilla
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To: blogblogginaway

How does Hillary win the Democratic nomination? She isn't a hardline antiwar candidate, so she's not liked among the DU/Sheehan crowd. The unions are split now, and her pro-NAFTA position probably insures that she won't get a solid backing of all the union groups. She simply isn't believable playing the "I'm the one who can win" card, since Democrats know that a lot of groups hate her.

Because of her gender and her "for the children" spiel, she'll do well among suburban women who aren't angry enough to be DU/Sheehan types. That will win her a few states, but not enough to win the nomination.

I'm still betting it will be John Edwards. Imagine John and Elizabeth going on Oprah. They could talk about Elizabeth's experience with cancer and how it made them realize how we need to make health care more about the patient and less about the money, blah, blah, blah. Now on FR, we know that's manipulative garbage, but I think that would sell well among a large sector of Democratic voters.

(I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary is going to doctors right now and saying "Is there a way you can give me some kind of disease that I won't die from and will have a difficult but ultimately successful recovery? I need to be well by the end of 2007. I have to match Elizabeth in this area.")


32 posted on 10/11/2005 9:18:49 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: staytrue

I will concede that Ohio is in play if it gets a dem governor.


33 posted on 10/11/2005 9:23:10 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: joesnuffy
It's hard to take someone who is a toe sucker (or is he the suckee, hmmm not sure) seriously. Besides, he's a big blow hard! lol
34 posted on 10/11/2005 9:25:22 AM PDT by ladiesview61
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To: Pukin Dog

I was thinking Newt Gingrich and George Allen, however, I like your choice better--George and Condi...ALLEN/RICE...that's it!


35 posted on 10/11/2005 9:26:47 AM PDT by nfldgirl ("I love a good rant every now-n-then!")
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To: blogblogginaway

As of the moment I wouldn't vote for either of them.


36 posted on 10/11/2005 9:33:36 AM PDT by whershey
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To: in hoc signo vinces

The American people didn't know the Clintons at all in `92, but we know them very well now.
'Halloween, Hillary, The Sequel'? Ain't gonna happen--no way, Jose.


37 posted on 10/11/2005 9:36:09 AM PDT by OkieDoke
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To: billhilly

He is a crack head.


38 posted on 10/11/2005 9:37:38 AM PDT by angcat
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To: vikzilla

The polls show at least in Guiliani's case he's wrong. Right now in the last poll I showed Guiliani was on top with McCain not far behind.


39 posted on 10/11/2005 9:48:19 AM PDT by MikeA
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To: vikzilla

The polls show at least in Guiliani's case he's wrong. Right now in the last poll I saw it showed Guiliani was on top with McCain not far behind.


40 posted on 10/11/2005 9:48:52 AM PDT by MikeA
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