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Flight from Chicago to NYC airport loses engine in flight
Passengers on flight | October 11, 2005 | vanity

Posted on 10/11/2005 5:25:10 AM PDT by topher

Yesterday, October 10, 2005, a flight from one of the Chicago area airports to a NYC airport, alerted passengers just before landing that they had lost one of their engines.

The flight landed okay, but fire trucks were on the runway as the plane landed.

One of the passengers heard a sound when the engine was lost (apparently when the aircraft was at least 20,000 feet in altitude).

The passenger decribed the sound as a "whiz" not as a bang or "pop".

Apparently a Freeper exclusive -- no other reports of this incident. The flight number was 1082.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: mechanicalfailure; northwest; singleenginelanding
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Does anyone know if when a DC9-30 loses an engine if it can take off if the landing must be aborted? In other words, does the aircraft only have one chance for a safe landing?
1 posted on 10/11/2005 5:25:12 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher

They have to be able to make a one engine go-around.

Do you mean they lost lost an engine or one of the engines failed or was shut down?


2 posted on 10/11/2005 5:27:09 AM PDT by leadpenny
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The flight was a Northwest airlines flight. It may be important to note that this airline is in bankruptcy.
3 posted on 10/11/2005 5:28:04 AM PDT by topher (Please let Old-Fashioned moral values return to the United States!)
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To: topher

Won't tell us who the airline was, huh?


4 posted on 10/11/2005 5:28:23 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: leadpenny

They had a failure with an engine, and the flight crew shut it down. But the passenger I knew was shaken up by the experience. Another passenger was unaware of the problem. I was meeting the passenger who heard the sound at the airport, and the other passenger gave some more details.


5 posted on 10/11/2005 5:30:03 AM PDT by topher (Please let Old-Fashioned moral values return to the United States!)
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Many airlines have their crews taxi on one engine if it's going to be a long time before they are #1 for the runway. Maybe they are now flying on one engine to save fuel? ;)


6 posted on 10/11/2005 5:31:57 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Brilliant
I buried the airline name in the third post. Since I follow the stock market, I don't believe in things that might affect stock prices (sensational headlines like "Northwest flight from O'Hare to Newark makes Emergency landing on Columbus Day at Newark Airport").

It was Northwest airlines. In a sense, knowing the flight number, you can find out the airline (1082).

7 posted on 10/11/2005 5:33:15 AM PDT by topher (Please let Old-Fashioned moral values return to the United States!)
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It would be disconcerting but if you have to shut one down, altitude is the place to do it. You don't need all that power after you get to cruise. The possible missed approach is the real concern with one engine (on a two engine airplane).


8 posted on 10/11/2005 5:34:27 AM PDT by leadpenny
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The report will show up here

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/AccList.asp?month=10&year=2005

in a week or two.


9 posted on 10/11/2005 5:36:25 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: topher

A non-catastrophic engine failure is going to sound pretty much like normal shutdown on the ramp. A whining sound that becomes less and less as the engine winds down. To the trained ear it would be fairly obvious, especially if both of the engines were winding down. If airborne, the sound of silence would be deafening, except the screaming in the passenger cabin, might be louder.


10 posted on 10/11/2005 5:36:58 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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Maybe they are now flying on one engine to save fuel? ;)

Hmmmm... And I thought I was very thrifty turning off my car engine at long traffic lights (I have a standard transmission and an old car). Lately, I have added turning off the engine and coasting to a traffic light (okay if you have a standard transmission... But kind of absurd.)

I hope they don't decide to shut down both engines to save fuel (on descent)!!!

11 posted on 10/11/2005 5:37:34 AM PDT by topher (Please let Old-Fashioned moral values return to the United States!)
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DC9-30?

That's an old bird, isn't it?


12 posted on 10/11/2005 5:39:07 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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The report will show up here

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/AccList.asp?month=10&year=2005

in a week or two.

Thanks!

13 posted on 10/11/2005 5:39:38 AM PDT by topher (Please let Old-Fashioned moral values return to the United States!)
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Sorta like those Cadillacs that would start off on eight bangers and wind up on four?

Cadillac stole that from Ford's normal operations.
14 posted on 10/11/2005 5:42:10 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: topher
Thanks for being a responsible poster.

Too often we get sensationalized news that turns out to be overhyped.

15 posted on 10/11/2005 5:42:38 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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"The flight was a Northwest airlines flight. It may be important to note that this airline is in bankruptcy."

Weren't they in contract negotiations with the A&P Flight Mechanic's Union recently? Not that I would ever imply anything sinister happened!

16 posted on 10/11/2005 5:42:52 AM PDT by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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"Flight from Chicago to NYC airport loses engine in flight"

I hope they found it! Did they check under the seat cushions?


17 posted on 10/11/2005 5:43:19 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! MORE! MORE! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: topher

I normally don't shut things down in traffic, but I have always tried to anticipate lights. Coasting is a great fuel saver. Now days you're seeing fewer folks racing up to a red light just to wear their brakes out. The good side of higher fuel prices.


18 posted on 10/11/2005 5:43:47 AM PDT by leadpenny
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That's an old bird, isn't it?

I don't follow the airlines enough to really know.

That information is from the Northwest Airlines flight and gate status page. If you enter flight 1082, and submit yesterday's information, it will display that information. You can also click on the aircraft for specifications.

Here is a link provided from the flight info webpage:

DC9-30 info page - http://www.nwa.com/travel/trave/seatm/dc930/

19 posted on 10/11/2005 5:44:43 AM PDT by topher (Please let Old-Fashioned moral values return to the United States!)
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To: wita

I was in a plane once and that happened.

The silence WAS deafening. Complete and total silence, plus no one in the cabin was saying a word...

And after a few seconds (20?) both engines powered up again. You then heard a ton of sighs and phews from the passengers.


20 posted on 10/11/2005 5:45:06 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Serving on a Meals-on-Wheels program is NOT a qualification for a SC nominee. Call your Senators!)
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