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Daniel Pipes gives a thumbs-up to President Bush's courageous speech giving concrete definition to the War On Terror by defining the true nature of the enemy - but says it falls short of recognition that the Islamists' goal isn't confined to taking over the Islamic World aka the Spain-Indonesia area - the global aim of the enemy, like the Nazis before them, is to take over the free world as well and impose on it a totalitarian philosophy; this one embodied in the Shari'a. More work is needed since the West is effectively engaged in a Third World War. Winnning it requires perserverance and a willingness to stick to it in the long term til freedom's most dangerous enemy is histoire.
1 posted on 10/11/2005 1:35:56 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
“a religious ideology, a strain within the worldwide religion of Islam.”

To be perfectly clear, it's the dominant strain.

2 posted on 10/11/2005 1:44:38 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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To: goldstategop

Daniel Pipes gets it - thanks for the post.


3 posted on 10/11/2005 1:44:49 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: goldstategop
And this Daniel also testifies: (from an earlier post)


6 posted on 10/11/2005 1:56:48 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: goldstategop
"...the three-step Islamist drive to power: ending Western influence in the Muslim world, gaining control of Muslim governments, and establishing “a radical Islamic empire that spans from Spain to Indonesia.” Explained the “violent, political vision” of radical Islam as comprising an agenda “to develop weapons of mass destruction, to destroy Israel, to intimidate Europe, to assault the American people, and to blackmail our government into isolation.” Defined its ultimate goal: “to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world.” "

Bump!

7 posted on 10/11/2005 2:00:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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8 posted on 10/11/2005 2:08:32 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: swarthyguy

Your thoughts...?

Certainly, I agree with Pipes that the rhetoric has improved. It was a good speech last week.

Cheers.


9 posted on 10/11/2005 2:28:01 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: goldstategop
"Focusing on Muslims as the exclusive source of Islamists permits them finally to do their job adequately."

About time. We need to focus our attention and resources where the problem is and Islam is the problem.
10 posted on 10/11/2005 3:28:50 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: goldstategop

"Observed that Muslims themselves have the burden of doing the “most vital work” to fight Islamism."

Muslims must come to grips with the fact that they are the only ones ultimately that can stop islamofascism or destroy themselves and the world.


13 posted on 10/11/2005 4:02:36 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: goldstategop

The fourth era will also come when Congress provides a full declaration of war and "names the enemy", starting with the State Dept.'s "List of Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations".

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm


16 posted on 10/11/2005 5:03:01 AM PDT by angkor
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To: goldstategop
Only when Americans realize that the Islamists intend to replace the U.S. Constitution with Shari’a will they enter the fourth and final era of this war.

I think I got a new tage line...

17 posted on 10/11/2005 5:13:09 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: goldstategop
Only when Americans realize that the Islamists intend to replace the U.S. Constitution with Shari’a will they enter the fourth and final era of this war.

This deserves to be trumpeted from the Capitol Dome.

18 posted on 10/11/2005 5:14:06 AM PDT by Kenton (Only when Americans realize that the Islamists intend to replace the U.S. Constitution with Shari’a)
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20 posted on 10/11/2005 5:26:35 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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21 posted on 10/11/2005 5:32:11 AM PDT by SJackson (Palestinian police…in Gaza City…firing in the air to protest a lack of bullets)
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To: goldstategop
Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant."--------- --Omas Ahmad, Cofounder of CAIR.

"Only when Americans realize that the Islamists intend to replace the U.S. Constitution with Shari’a will they enter the fourth and final era of this war."

CAIR and the ACLU use the Politically Correct format to further their efforts to undermine all things American, Christian, Hebrew, any religion but Islam - the ACLU promotes ISLAM in our public schools and CAIR demands respect for all Muslims but fails to show the same respect to other religions.

Daniel Pipes also says....."Those of us who watch the growth of radical Islam in the United States tend to focus on the noisy organizations like CAIR, MPAC, and ISNA. The Muslim American Society, which claims 53 chapters and 10,000 members, tends to go about its work quietly; it is none the less dangerous – and perhaps more so – for that."

Don't be Politically Correct, become thoroughly honest. Being PC is a cop-out from reality.
22 posted on 10/11/2005 5:40:53 AM PDT by yoe
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To: goldstategop

The next step is to recognize that all of Islam is radical.

We are engaged in a war with people who are located in widely separated places in the world but are tied together with the powerful drug of fanatic religious belief. I believe we are at war with an entire population.

The Islamic jihad cannot succeed because it can only destroy, it cannot create.



23 posted on 10/11/2005 5:57:03 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: goldstategop
First of all the President, Congress and the State Dept. need to put all politics aside and allow the Pentagon and our military to do their job. The American people cannot win wars with both hands tied. Their is no difference between a politically active terror organization and a militant organization, one feeds the other. I don't recall reading about Hitler, Stalin or Saddam committing their crimes single handedly, though they were the voice behind those who committed the acts. There should be no distinction between our terrorists and their terrorists because they are all the enemy of the American way. As for our European allies who are protecting those who preach Islam's terror shame on them, we should begin plucking the terrorists right off the streets. Our government has no obligation or right to protect those who incite violence against the American people, especially if they are merely a guest in this country. Actions speak louder than words and as the saying goes, politicians cannot be trusted until that changes the war needs to be left up to those whose job is to defeat the enemy.
24 posted on 10/11/2005 6:06:05 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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27 posted on 10/11/2005 6:47:50 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, no more money for Hamastine!)
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To: goldstategop; Dark Skies

Great Article -


35 posted on 10/11/2005 9:47:50 AM PDT by justche (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Damn straight, I'll cast the first stone!" - MeanWestTexan)
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To: goldstategop

"but says it falls short of recognition that the Islamists' goal isn't confined to taking over the Islamic World aka the Spain-Indonesia area - the global aim of the enemy, like the Nazis before them, is to take over the free world as well and impose on it a totalitarian philosophy"

Agreed, but the speech is another step on the road. Pipes is an independent commentator. Presidents always have to consider the politics. Had I been president on 9/11, the Islamic population of Asia would have ceased to exist on 9/12. But that's me. ;')


40 posted on 10/11/2005 7:12:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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