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World needs Kyoto climate pact: scientist
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 10/10/05 | David Fogarty

Posted on 10/10/2005 7:45:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - The world must stick with the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions and the United States needs to show leadership in limiting climate change instead of being an obstacle, a top British scientist said on Monday.

Officials from 150 nations meet in Canada next month to discuss how to take the Kyoto pact beyond 2012, when its first phase ends.

The pact, which came into force this year, obliges only developed nations to meet emissions targets while developing nations, including big polluters China and India, are excluded until at least 2012.

"We are faced with a situation in which the United States is not prepared to get on board Kyoto, so taking it forward from there is difficult," said Sir David King, chief scientific adviser for the British government.

President George W. Bush pulled the United States, the world's top polluter, out of Kyoto in 2001 saying that emissions targets could threaten economic growth and that excluding large developing nations didn't make sense.

Australia refused to ratify the pact for the same reasons, while India does not believe setting targets is the right solution.

Under Kyoto, agreed by governments at a 1997 U.N. conference in the Japanese city, the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by developed countries should be cut by 5.2 percent of 1990 levels during the five-year period 2008-2012.

But many countries are already well behind their targets and refusal by the United States and Australia delayed the pact finally coming into force.

Asked if he believed such disagreements meant Kyoto needed to be scrapped or amended, King said: "No, I don't."

"I think the White House is keen to push the whole technology debate forward without putting forward any global emissions plan. I don't see within the U.S. something that will bring global action into play," he told Reuters on the sidelines of a climate change forum in Singapore.

The United States, Australia and four Asian nations including China, unveiled their own pact in July that focused on harnessing cleaner energy technology to curb greenhouse emissions.

STICK WITH KYOTO

This pact, dubbed "beyond Kyoto," was described as complimentary to Kyoto but the different approaches in curbing emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases by big polluters could bog down the Montreal talks.

Last week Britain played down hopes of a breakthrough and host Canada was equally gloomy.

But King said nations should stick with Kyoto.

"What I believe is that first of all we need to get Kyoto up and running and then to go to Kyoto plus," he said, adding that emissions trading is crucial to force utilities and energy companies to become more efficient.

"I think that is absolutely crucial and it would be wrong to abandon Kyoto," he said.

Asked the best way to bring China and India into the second phase of Kyoto, he said it was crucial to recognize that both countries were heavily dependent on their own coal reserves.

"We need to recognize that and in recognizing that we therefore need to be working with them on technologies such as carbon capture and storage, on alternative energy and demonstrating the idea is not to cut their economic growth."

He hoped Montreal would yield a breakthrough or at least demonstrate a way forward.

"The point is that as we move forward, the seriousness of the issue is becoming more apparent and everyone realizes it's in all of our interests to get some agreement out of this. That has to be crucial to the process."

Crucial, too, was the United States' role.

"I think it's very important that America finds a way to play a similar leadership role," he said pointing to Britain's commitment to cut emissions by 60 percent by 2050.


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Smoke billows from a power station during sunset in New Delhi, February 16, 2005. The world must stick with the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions and the United States needs to show leadership in limiting climate change instead of being an obstacle, a top British scientist said on Monday. REUTERS/Kamal Kishore


1 posted on 10/10/2005 7:45:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore shakes hands with Chinese attending Gore's speech on global climate change to students at Beijing's Tsinghua University in China Monday Oct. 10, 2005. The conference comes as the Chinese Academy of Sciences claimed environmental damage linked to climate change is affecting the Yellow River source according to a new survey commissioned by Greenpeace. (AP Photo/Elizabeth Dalziel)


2 posted on 10/10/2005 7:46:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The world must stick with the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions and the United States needs to show leadership in limiting climate change instead of being an obstacle, a top British scientist said on Monday.

How do you say "shove it" in British?

3 posted on 10/10/2005 7:46:46 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The world needs Kyoto like like a democrat needs a polygraph


4 posted on 10/10/2005 7:47:18 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Texas Eagle

Bugger off, mate.


5 posted on 10/10/2005 7:50:32 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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"President George W. Bush pulled the United States, the world's top polluter, out of Kyoto in 2001 saying that emissions targets could threaten economic growth and that excluding large developing nations didn't make sense."

False. Bill Clinton's democratically controlled Senate voted 95-0 against it, thereby killing it forever. Reuters can never get their facts right.


6 posted on 10/10/2005 7:51:37 PM PDT by spyone
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To: NormsRevenge

Blow my joint, a$$hole.


7 posted on 10/10/2005 7:54:00 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Needs it like a fish needs a bicycle ...


8 posted on 10/10/2005 7:54:37 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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9 posted on 10/10/2005 7:54:45 PM PDT by UnklGene
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To: lawdude

Er... not you Norm's revenge.


10 posted on 10/10/2005 7:54:52 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Greenpeace, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore
Three of a kind makes a he** of a hand. Does anyone of these have the slightest motivation to tell the truth now, or any record of truthfulness in the past concerning this issue?


11 posted on 10/10/2005 7:55:36 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Archon of the East

Bwaaaahaaaahaaaa!

Thank you for making my evening. Good thing I was not drinking anything ... :-)


12 posted on 10/10/2005 7:55:44 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: NormsRevenge
In other words, sacrifice our standard of living and jobs so India and China can continue to pollute the earth with emissions that contribute to global warming? Thanks but no thanks.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
13 posted on 10/10/2005 7:59:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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How do you say "shove it" in British?

We hold these truths to be self-evident...

14 posted on 10/10/2005 7:59:30 PM PDT by rhombus
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Sir David King, chief scientific adviser for the British government

His time would be better spent trying to develop better teeth for the British.

15 posted on 10/10/2005 8:00:50 PM PDT by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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16 posted on 10/10/2005 8:04:17 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("One of the most powerful religions in the Western World is environmentalism." -- Michael Crichton)
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To: NormsRevenge
STICK WITH KYOTO

Stick Kyoto up your you-know-whats, you liars and charlatans pretending to be scientists. Or, more accurately, you atheist communists pretending to be concerned about climate rather than politics.

17 posted on 10/10/2005 8:05:46 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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World needs Kyoto climate pact: scientist

World needs an enema to flush out these "scientists".

18 posted on 10/10/2005 8:09:40 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: Texas Eagle

I don't know but an Aussie friend of mine years back would say: "Yank my crank, mate".


20 posted on 10/10/2005 8:31:15 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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