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Posted on 10/10/2005 11:23:50 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe
Galton believed that the proper evolution of the human race was thwarted by philanthropic outreach to the poor: misguided charity encouraged the "unfit" to bear more children. This upset the mechanism of natural selection. Hence, the human race needed a kind of artificial selection, which he called "eugenics," from Greek for good birth.

Or, in other words, eugenics is Intelligent Design.

61 posted on 10/11/2005 6:54:26 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Reeses
Darwin focused on genetics, however cultural evolution is more important for humans.

Darwin didn't talk about genetics. Genetics weren't incorporated into Darwinian theory until the Modern Synthesis in the 1930s and 40s.

62 posted on 10/11/2005 6:55:32 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All
The American Journal of Eugenics 2 in 1906 called eugenics a "science," but also noted that the Century Dictionary defined it as "the doctrine of Progress, or Evolution, especially in the human race, through improved conditions in the relations of the sexes."


So this is what modern "progressive" means by progressive.
This explain all the NOW gang sex quotas, absurd feminst studies programs, and obsession with killing babies.

Not your grandfather's progressive.
63 posted on 10/11/2005 7:06:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Jackknife

Vera scaray ping


64 posted on 10/11/2005 7:15:33 PM PDT by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: Fruit of the Spirit
Then how do we explain these Communist-loving liberals who want to destroy our country?

Half the population is always less fit to compete than the other half. It is in the unfit half's self interest to loot wealth from the fit half.

65 posted on 10/11/2005 10:37:07 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: The Drowning Witch

Bump for after work reading.


66 posted on 10/12/2005 3:15:01 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: Reeses
"Half the population is always less fit to compete than the other half. It is in the unfit half's self interest to loot wealth from the fit half."


This is a thread about eugenics not taxes. In the past rich Victorians tried to prevent the poor and the undesirable from having children. There is a link between eugenics and communism. I think Margaret Sanger married a rich socialist. Planned parenthood now seems to be a communist front organization.Obviously, the goals of the Eugenicists can only be accomplished in societies where people have no rights. Nazi Germany was big in eugenics ,and the Red Chinese are really taking care (aborting) of their have nots.
67 posted on 10/12/2005 8:26:54 AM PDT by after dark
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To: Right Wing Professor

Catholics in Europe didn't have clean hands.


68 posted on 07/27/2006 2:14:22 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Read more about Australians below.



"The great break in the organic chain between man and his nearest
allies, which cannot be bridged over by any extinct or living species,
has often been advanced as a grave objection to the belief that man is
descended from some lower form; but this objection will not appear
of much weight to those who, from general reasons, believe in the
general principle of evolution. Breaks often occur in all parts of the
series, some being wide, sharp and defined, others less so in
various degrees; as between the orang and its nearest allies-
between the Tarsius and the other Lemuridae- between the elephant, and
in a more striking manner between the Ornithorhynchus or Echidna,
and all other mammals. But these breaks depend merely on the number of
related forms which have become extinct. At some future period, not
very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will
almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout
the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor
Schaaffhausen has remarked,* will no doubt be exterminated. The
break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it
will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may
hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon,
instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla."


Darwin ch 6
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/charles_darwin/descent_of_man/chapter_06.html


69 posted on 07/27/2006 2:21:03 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: budlt2369

He was right about the apes.


70 posted on 07/27/2006 2:26:32 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: 2ndreconmarine
Darwin promoted artificial selection which was renamed eugenics by his cousin and promoted by his children.

"Finally, although the gradual decrease and ultimate extinction of the races of man is a highly complex problem, depending on many causes which differ in different places and at different times; it is the same problem as that presented by the extinction of one of the higher animals- of the fossil horse, for instance, which disappeared from South America, soon afterwards to be replaced, within the same districts, by countless troups of the Spanish horse. The New Zealander seems conscious of this parallelism, for he compares his future fate with that of the native rat now almost exterminated by the European rat. Though the difficulty is great to our imagination, and really great, if we wish to ascertain the precise causes and their manner of action, it ought not to be so to our reason, as long as we keep steadily in mind that the increase of each species and each race is constantly checked in various ways; so that if any new check, even a slight one, be superadded, the race will surely decrease in number; and decreasing numbers will sooner or later lead to extinction; the end, in most cases, being promptly determined by the inroads of conquering tribes.

On the Formation of the Races of Man.- In some cases the crossing of distinct races has led to the formation of a new race. The singular fact that the Europeans and Hindoos, who belong to the same Aryan stock, and speak a language fundamentally the same, differ widely in appearance, whilst Europeans differ but little from Jews, who belong to the Semitic stock, and speak quite another language, has been accounted for by Broca,* through certain Aryan branches having been largely crossed by indigenous tribes during their wide diffusion. When two races in close contact cross, the first result is a heterogeneous mixture: thus Mr. Hunter, in describing the Santali orhill-tribes of India, says that hundreds of imperceptible gradations may be traced "from the black, squat tribes of the mountains to the tall olive-coloured Brahman, with his intellectual brow, calm eyes, and high but narrow head"; so that it is necessary in courts of justice to ask the witnesses whether they are Santalis or Hindoos.*(2) Whether a heterogeneous people, such as the inhabitants of some of the Polynesian islands, formed by the crossing of two distinct races, with few or no pure members left, would ever become homogeneous, is not known from direct evidence. But as with our domesticated animals, a cross-breed can certainly be fixed and made uniform by careful selection*(3) in the course of a few generations, we may infer that the free inter-crossing of a heterogeneous mixture during a long descent would supply the place of selection, and overcome any tendency to reversion; so that the crossed race would ultimately become homogeneous, though it might not partake in an equal degree of the characters of the two parent-races."

Darwin ch 7
71 posted on 07/27/2006 2:28:29 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Withholding smallpox vaccines to natives is eugenics. Darwin promoted withholding smallpox vaccines to natives in Descent of Man.
72 posted on 07/27/2006 2:32:33 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: TigersEye

"Positive eugenics can also be coercive. Abortion by "fit" women was illegal in Nazi Germany."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


73 posted on 07/27/2006 2:36:57 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: Reeses

Peter Singer says replace the ideas of Marx with the ideas of Darwin? Is that an improvement?

http://www.reason.com/0012/rb.the.shtml


74 posted on 07/27/2006 2:38:51 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: js1138

What do you mean? The apes should be sterilized?


75 posted on 07/27/2006 2:41:08 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: budlt2369

How would killing Apes help humans?


76 posted on 07/27/2006 2:42:39 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: budlt2369
What do you mean? The apes should be sterilized?

The great apes are on the way to extinction, as predicted. It's not a deliberate thing; just the result of reduction in living space.

77 posted on 07/27/2006 2:45:11 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138
Look at the posting history of budlt2369 and tell me he isn't a retred using a sleeper account.

Don't waste your time.
78 posted on 07/27/2006 3:40:29 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: js1138

I don't think killing apes will help humans.


79 posted on 07/27/2006 6:32:02 AM PDT by budlt2369 (Darwin might have been a Darwinist.)
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To: budlt2369
Peter Singer says replace the ideas of Marx with the ideas of Darwin?

The left is highly incompatible with Darwin's ideas. Man is a war maker by nature, our genetics and culture were selected for in the hot crucible of war. Darwin's conclusions support a strong military, right to bear arms for self-defense, and jail for society's rougher edges. The left does not understand Darwin, for if they did they would become conservatives.

80 posted on 07/27/2006 7:33:02 AM PDT by Reeses
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