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EUGENICS
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Posted on 10/10/2005 11:23:50 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Right Wing Professor

"Eugenics is the study of methods to improve the human race by controlling reproduction."

That must be why liberals are attempting to control our children now...so they can use them a guinea pigs later. Heil, Hitler!!!


41 posted on 10/10/2005 9:54:36 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Crawdad

"They used the first IQ tests in the first World War on American draftees."

The first IQ test wasn't exactly scientific but it was laughable!


42 posted on 10/10/2005 9:58:37 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It's not about philosophies of life. Abortion is about money.

43 posted on 10/10/2005 10:06:10 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The State Boys Rebellion
http://www.simonsays.com/content/content.cfm?sid=33&pid=422319

It’s interesting that Germany looked to the US for it’s ideas on eugenics.


44 posted on 10/11/2005 12:01:07 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: Coyoteman
This is only my opinion, so please take it only for what it is.

This eugenics article is quoting a not-very-mainstream "journal" article from 1960 as a source. The article in question is in edition one, volume one, of the "journal", and is curiously not available online. I tried very hard to find it, and was unable to do so.

I have heard (from time to time, from none-too-savory individuals) about the so-called species "Homo Sapiens Africanus" and that is what I googled to find this article. I suspect that the "journal" in question was referencing extremely old (and totally discredited) anthropological information and severly misquoting (and severly misrepresenting) it.

I dug around quite a bit on the internet, and was unable to substantially show this. Without access to the original MankindQuarterly article, it is very difficult to track. Go to www.mankindquarterly.com to get a taste. You may want to brush your teeth afterwards.

45 posted on 10/11/2005 1:56:17 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: PatrickHenry; Right Wing Professor
Eugenics goes back to the Bible

Book of Numbers

5:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

5:2 Command the children of Israel, that they put out of the camp every leper, and every one that hath an issue, and whosoever is defiled by the dead:

5:3 Both male and female shall ye put out, without the camp shall ye put them; that they defile not their camps, in the midst whereof I dwell.

5:4 And the children of Israel did so, and put them out without the camp: as the LORD spake unto Moses, so did the children of Israel.

46 posted on 10/11/2005 3:15:54 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
Eugenics goes back to the Bible

That too is Darwin's fault.

47 posted on 10/11/2005 3:30:53 AM PDT by PatrickHenry ( I won't respond to a troll, crackpot, retard, or incurable ignoramus.)
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To: sageb1
In October 1916, Margaret Sanger opened the first birth control clinic in the United States. Several months later, she founded the Birth Control Review. She and her co-workers incorporated the American Birth Control League in 1922. (The organization was renamed the Birth Control Federation of America in 1939, and in 1942 was renamed the Planned Parenthood Federation of America.11) She wrote: "Birth control is thus the entering wedge for the Eugenic educator . . . the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit' is admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization . . . The most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the overfertility of the mentally and physically defective."12

Margaret Sanger's supremacist racism should never be forgotten. This is the foundation of Planned Parenthood.

48 posted on 10/11/2005 3:36:05 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Yes, liberals are despicable no matter what they choose to cloak themselves in, including the trappings of Christianity.


49 posted on 10/11/2005 3:38:02 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Ah, so mainstream Protestants are liberal heretics.

Please. Don't be a superioristic jackass.

50 posted on 10/11/2005 3:44:14 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: litehaus
Excuse the UN-PCness of the question, but has anyone here married, what in the old days, was considered a retard?


51 posted on 10/11/2005 3:47:29 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: qam1

Uh, leprosy was contagious. Quarantining people with a potentially fatal contagion is eugenics?


52 posted on 10/11/2005 3:50:07 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Don't be a superioristic jackass.

It's hard not to be 'superioristic' in your august presence.

53 posted on 10/11/2005 5:02:07 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Abortion is not about saving women’s lives!

Total Abortions since 1973

45,951,133

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Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)

The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions — California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.

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Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing

· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby

· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child

· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)

· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career

· 7.9% of women want no (more) children

· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health

2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

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So how many women’s lives have been saved by abortion?

Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be “due to a risk to maternal health.” A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But let’s say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.

Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.

54 posted on 10/11/2005 9:03:10 AM PDT by TigersEye (Once again, at feet of Clay, behead the dragon and Tiger slay.)
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To: Fruit of the Spirit
Consider the Civil War where boys as young as twelve died.

The winning army does not need pass on their genetics personally, only that the nation that produced the army survives to pass on their culture and genetics. The genetic difference between a brave soldier and his siblings is slight, and the cultural difference is zero. So if the soldier dies but most of their kin survives, by proxy they will pass on 99.999% of their genetics and 100% of their culture.

The left likes to promote Darwin's theory of natural selection, but they suppress Darwin's ideas in The Descent of Man, written in 1871. Darwin explained that human evolution is warfare based. To be human means to be a war maker. He explained how altruistic acts by soldiers are passed on, even if the soldier dies.

Darwin focused on genetics, however cultural evolution is more important for humans. If you let a small child grow up in the wild by itself, it will turn into a wild animal. It is the cultural programming we receive from our tribe that turns us into who we become.

55 posted on 10/11/2005 9:45:28 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: ovrtaxt
Uh, leprosy was contagious. Quarantining people with a potentially fatal contagion is eugenics?

Did you miss the "and every one that hath an issue" part

And it wasn't exactly quarantining, being that they were Nomads in desert being "put out of camp" most certainly would have been a death sentence.

And let's not forget this diddy..

2 Samuel

5:8 And David said on that day, Whosoever getteth up to the gutter, and smiteth the Jebusites, and the lame and the blind that are hated of David's soul, he shall be chief and captain. Wherefore they said, The blind and the lame shall not come into the house.

56 posted on 10/11/2005 10:17:50 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
How do you reconcile this with David letting Saul's crippled son eat at his table?
57 posted on 10/11/2005 10:34:53 AM PDT by after dark
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To: qam1

The KJV is sometime difficult to figure out. Late Middle English and all that. Here's the New Living Translation, with context:

6 David then led his troops to Jerusalem to fight against the Jebusites. "You'll never get in here," the Jebusites taunted. "Even the blind and lame could keep you out!" For the Jebusites thought they were safe. 7 But David captured the fortress of Zion, now called the City of David.
8 When the insulting message from the defenders of the city reached David, he told his own troops, "Go up through the water tunnel into the city and destroy those `lame' and `blind' Jebusites. How I hate them." That is the origin of the saying, "The blind and the lame may not enter the house."*


58 posted on 10/11/2005 2:42:58 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: qam1

And the 'issue' issue: open wounds that release fluid and do not heal were also a health threat to the population at large. We see such transference of disease by bodily fluids in diseases such as hepatitis.

As for being put out of the camp, it didn't mean that they were ignored or not provided for, just separated from the rest of the population. The Israelites were specifically commanded, by the way, to show mercy and kindness to such people, and many times God reprimanded them for their lack of mercy.

Anyway, why are you trying to attribute sick garbage like eugenics to the Bible?


59 posted on 10/11/2005 3:04:36 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: Reeses

"cultural evolution is more important for humans"

Then how do we explain these Communist-loving liberals who want to destroy our country?


60 posted on 10/11/2005 6:48:48 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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