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With Wal-Marts come tough choices
omaha world herald (link requires registration) ^ | 10 10 05 | PAUL HAMMEL

Posted on 10/10/2005 9:06:22 AM PDT by flixxx

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Another Wal-Mart story...
1 posted on 10/10/2005 9:06:25 AM PDT by flixxx
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To: flixxx

i find it amazing that everybody criticises Wal-MArt because they sell stuff cheaper - as if that's a sin. why shouldn't people be able to buy stuff cheap?

and when the community needs something, how many "little stores" chip in the big bucks to help out - like WM did after Katrina? I didn't see any local NOLA stores giving stuff and cash to the cause. only looters, and they looted WM too.


2 posted on 10/10/2005 9:09:50 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: flixxx
I believe China could disappear tommorrow and WalMart wouldn't miss a beat. In particular, I don't see any of their food items which say "Made in China" on them and WalMart's food prices are half of what other stores charge.

I mean, why should cottage cheese be unaffordable??

3 posted on 10/10/2005 9:10:10 AM PDT by tamalejoe
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To: camle

"i find it amazing that everybody criticises Wal-MArt because they sell stuff cheaper - as if that's a sin. why shouldn't people be able to buy stuff cheap?"

My only problem with Wal-mart is much of what they sell comes from CHINA, whom we spend billions of dollars in preparation to go to war against them. So, in a sense, our purchases at Walmart, Target, Big Lots, and numerous other corporations, is funding our communist foes.

If these corporations bought their inventory somewhere else and the majority of their products didn't say MADE IN CHINA, i really don't have a problem with it.


4 posted on 10/10/2005 9:12:42 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (If not now, when?)
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5 posted on 10/10/2005 9:15:38 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Don't get stuck on stupid - Lt. General Honore)
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To: camle

I forget the specific reference, but I recall reading that families in communities in which there is a WalMart have about 10% (or more) more money at the end of a month due to the lower costs for items...sorry I do not have the actual reference with me.


6 posted on 10/10/2005 9:15:46 AM PDT by flixxx
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To: camle

I think some people are upset that companies like Wal-Mart support communist countries. Also, the changing attitudes of companies like Wal-Mart who once was pround to say "made in America". Thats all.


7 posted on 10/10/2005 9:16:36 AM PDT by Skeeve14 (1980's RR-Communism Evil Empire 2000's GWB-Communism good for Business)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

a lot of places sell MADEINCHINA stuff, not just Wal-Mart. nobody forces anybody to buy chimnese made stuff. you can read the label and decide accordingly if that's what you want.

but if you need a jacket and want to get it for less money, isn't it better to have the option?

or is it preferrable to force everybody to adhere to one's personal buying preferences.

I don't like china either, but i would not be one to erradicate it off the shelves either.


8 posted on 10/10/2005 9:16:53 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: flixxx

you might very well be correct, AND there are more people with jobs that pay better and have benifits.

more people making more selling more stuff to more people. i can see why the libs hate WM...


9 posted on 10/10/2005 9:18:22 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Skeeve14

gotcha. i wish they'd go back to selling only made in the USA stuff meself.

but since i buy almost all of my clothes at Good Will, I seldom go into WM at all. maybe once a year or so...


10 posted on 10/10/2005 9:19:32 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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Wal Mart takes the hit in the media because they contribute to conservative politicians. Wal Mart is accused of moving in to small towns, destroying their economies, and taking away all the jobs, which causes unemployment to go up. If that was the case, Wal Mart would be going broke, not getting rich.

Costco engages in the same business practices as Wal Mart but you never hear about people protesting a new Costco coming to town because they gut local economies. Why? Because Costco is from Washington state and they contribute to liberal politicians. So if you believe the media, Costco is as good as gold but Wal Mart is the face of evil. Whatever...

11 posted on 10/10/2005 9:19:39 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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"a lot of places sell MADEINCHINA stuff, not just Wal-Mart"

That's my point, which you seemed to have missed. Why can't Wal-mart be a national corporate citizen and buy their stuff from India, Morocco, Macedonia or any other 200 nations until China gets on board. That would cut them off at the knees. And all those highways they are building with our dollars to allow their tanks to roll the countryside to crush democratic and religious movements, and prepare for a counter-attack from us would be roads for rickshaws.


12 posted on 10/10/2005 9:20:44 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (If not now, when?)
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"If these corporations bought their inventory somewhere else and the majority of their products didn't say MADE IN CHINA, i really don't have a problem with it."

While I tend to agree with your sentiment, I find it a little myopic. Sure Wal Mart carries a lot of Chinese-made products. What store chain doesn't? Why single out Wal Mart?


13 posted on 10/10/2005 9:20:44 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

WM is not on earth to be the arbitrator of which nation is worthy or not. that is not what they are for.

I generally do not buy anything made in china. that's my choice. you may chose to buy or not - your choice. what I will defend is the right of anybody else (WM included) to make their own choices.

WM sells stuff cheap. that's what they're supposed to do. WM is not around to perform the kind of international global socialization that governments cannot or will not do.


14 posted on 10/10/2005 9:24:07 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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Yes but what about businesses here that can't even make products that cheap. I.E. higher pay and expensive materials. If you keep saving that little bit of money then these companies close or don't even become. Less jobs = no money to buy Chinese or American. We will soon all work for Wal-Mart.


15 posted on 10/10/2005 9:24:12 AM PDT by md2576 (Don't be such a Shehan Hugger!)
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Right after Katrina, even before the racist government was there to help after they blew up the levees, there were the Walt Wenzl trucks, loaded up with $20 million worth of supplies, food and wa-.....what? They were WAL-MART trucks, NOT Walt Wenzl trucks? Oh, never mind.


16 posted on 10/10/2005 9:24:26 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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Hi camle-

The problem with Wal*Mart is the lousy quality of stuff on their shelves. It's very sad how people will become accustomed to junk just because it is a few cents cheaper compared to the durable items in the store next door.

A great example is bicycles...the ones from the big-box discounters don't even have bearings inside. They just have a pressed piece of nylon in the headset and bottom bracket that can't even be rebuilt. The bicycle is just a disposable item in their mind.

~ Blue Jays ~

17 posted on 10/10/2005 9:25:15 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: md2576

this is not necessarily true. companies that cannot compete in one market may compete very well in another. to raise prices artificially in order to "save" some entity is protectionism and history has shown that protectionism doesn't work. in fact it has disasterous results.


18 posted on 10/10/2005 9:25:55 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Blue Jays

well you may be correct. at my age buiying a bicycle would be a sure sign of dementia;-)

but maybe that's what people want. the way kids today beat the heck out of their bikes, it's a wonder anything can stand up to that.


19 posted on 10/10/2005 9:27:48 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: tamalejoe

mmmmm! creamed cottage cheese....

The fact of the matter WM does provide better jobs. has anyone ever seen a Mom'Pop store pay anyone more than Min. wage and employ more than one or two people? Nope. Plus you can actually get what you need, instead of having to drive to a bigger city where the larger stores can afford to actually stock what you are looking for.


20 posted on 10/10/2005 9:29:00 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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