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To: dirtboy
"The power to overcome the employer's property rights has been an agenda for the left for decades."

Nebulous.

"Ah, so my employer CAN restrict my First Amendment rights on the job. "

The keyword is on the job. The workplace does not extend into the employee's vehicle.

"A serf has no choice who he works for."

Everyone has to work. Everyone does not have the capacity and/or the opportunity to run a business. It is the govm'ts job to protect rights and define property lines. Tradiitonally the property line was drawn at the vehicle body, or saddle bag. Employers have attempted to extend their property line into the employees.

This was done, because the legislatures failed to ban, or restrict firearms as they wanted. This action by the employers prevents employees from choosing effective self defense measures off the job, traveling to and from work. It's a valid exercise of govm't power for the legislature to acknowledge and protect their employees rights. Especially when the exercise of those rights occurs outside the workplace.

241 posted on 10/11/2005 10:01:15 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
The keyword is on the job. The workplace does not extend into the employee's vehicle.

The parking lot is the employer's property. You car is parked on it. He has the right to set terms for his property.

Everyone has to work. Everyone does not have the capacity and/or the opportunity to run a business.

There are businesses that do not have this restriction. Work for them. If you used the marketplace of ideas, the companies in question might change their policies for business reasons, instead of resorting to government force.

It is the govm'ts job to protect rights and define property lines. Tradiitonally the property line was drawn at the vehicle body, or saddle bag. Employers have attempted to extend their property line into the employees.

Their property line is at their property line. They cannot force a search. But they can demand that you leave and terminate your employment.

This was done, because the legislatures failed to ban, or restrict firearms as they wanted. This action by the employers prevents employees from choosing effective self defense measures off the job, traveling to and from work. It's a valid exercise of govm't power for the legislature to acknowledge and protect their employees rights. Especially when the exercise of those rights occurs outside the workplace.

The lot belongs to the employer. Once again, use the marketplace of ideas, instead of government force.

242 posted on 10/11/2005 10:15:44 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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