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To: Leatherneck_MT

A corporation is a group of people banded together in a specific type of business organization. It was not created by the government, but follows rules imposed by the government, as do individual citizens. I don't agree with your premise that an individual loses his rights and intrinsic value just because he works in concert with other individuals.


139 posted on 10/10/2005 9:40:27 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Sam Cree

You obviously misread what I said, and if you do not think that a corporation is a created person, then go read the laws governing the creation of a corporation.

They are in all legal respects, a person.

They are a created person, created by a government law.

Again, that which is created cannot be greater than the creator.

That is a simple law of nature.

My Rights as a sovereign citizen of this State and the country that I live in, is greater than ANY created Corporation.

But this is getting off the point. The point remains that NOBODY has the right to prevent me from carrying a weapon in my vehicle if it is legal to do so.

You have the right to keep my car and ALL of it's contents off of your property, but you cannot pick and choose unless you want to make a voluntary vehicle search be the conditions under which you allow me on your property.

But I dare say you won't be in business very long because people won't put up with it.


144 posted on 10/10/2005 10:08:34 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Sam Cree
Sam Cree said: "It [a corporation] was not created by the government, ..."

My argument concerning how to address the possession of firearms depends on a distinction which I don't see you making. That distinction is between a "corporation" and a "private company".

People are free to pool their resources and conduct business as partnerships and to control their private property in so doing. All of the individuals maintain their rights in the business and they are individually responsible for meeting the obligations of the business. Each of their entire fortunes are at risk in the business.

"Corporations" are a government created mechanism for permitting the pooling of resources with the benefit of limited liability. In exchange for this benefit, corporations are taxed differently than real persons and there are considerable legal requirements for properly running a corporation. The purpose of corporate law is to encourage business for the benefit of the public at large.

It is a totally government created mechanism. There is absolutely no moral, ethical, legal, or other constraint which should prevent us from modifying corporate law so that the right to keep and bear arms is not denied to the people because of the success of corporations.

Such modification of corporate law would NOT effect companies which rely on partnerships that do not derive benefits from corporate law. Such private businesses could continue to exercise their private property rights without government interference.

157 posted on 10/10/2005 11:22:52 AM PDT by William Tell
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