[Thumbellina]

I truly hope you are right Doug, but won't the Clintons and the media just point out that these guys are just crooks and you can't believe them?

[doug from upland]

It is difficult for Hillary to claim she didn't know. Peter included documents in his civil lawsuit, accepted by David Kendall on her behalf. It is part of the legal record.

This time, in the civil trial, we will hear testimony from both Peter and Aaron Tonken, whom the prosecutors did not call in the Rosen trial. We will also hear from Rosen. i watched him lie his *ss off in that L.A. courtroom. You can't get away with the lies forever, although sometimes it may seem like it.