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To: doug from upland
Doug, I have to ask, so what? What did Hillary gain by misrepresenting the true cost of this event on her FEC disclosures? Does this really rise to a jailing offense? Were the in-kind contributions from Peter Paul and others illegal, and hidden for that reason? Is that what you are trying to get at? I'm serious, there have been many many candidates admonished and even fined by the FEC for not disclosing in-kind contributions properly, but to my knowledge none have gone to jail or even suffered much public opprobrium for it.

Oh, and by the way, I know you are pissed about the Post article, but I read it and tried to read it as a dispassionate reader, and I came away thinking Hillary has really sold herself to some scumbags and that the Hollywood crowd she seems so comfortable with and who promote themselves as such caring liberal activists are simply for sale to the highest bidder and are a bunch of greedy starf**king airheads. I thought it was an extremely unflattering article and I can't imagine Team Clinton is very happy about it. And you have to admit that this, er, colorful cast of characters involved in this fundraiser make for a pretty entertaining story.

162 posted on 10/09/2005 2:46:37 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
It is somewhat complicated, but if the expenses were reported honestly, they would have taken away a huge amount of hard money she had available to spend in New York in the final weeks of the campaign. If you remember, during one of the debates, Rick Lazio walked over to her on the stage and demanded that she sign a soft money agreement. Eventually, she made that agreement. Had she accurately reported the in-kind contribution from Peter, the amount of money left to spend for commercials in the final critical weeks could have damaged her.

But the Clinton philosophy has always been to do what they want, drag it out, and the effect will be blunted later. What was the FEC going to do for cheating, take away her senate seat? Nope.

There is something else she didn't report -- the value of the performances of Cher, Diana Ross, and others. That was reportable. They knew they had to report it because of the reporting they did for famous photographer Annie Leibowitz. She charges 25 grand for high end clients for a private sitting. But the Clinton campaign only declared $2,000 for the photos taken of some of the Hollywood elite. Why declare that and not the performers?

I hope the Clintons will be unhappy about it, but it is going to take us doing something to advance the story. Pirro has not wanted to touch this. I hope Edward Nixon will.

163 posted on 10/09/2005 2:57:21 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Another Hillary Finance Scandal
By Dick Morris
Slate | January 12, 2005

The indictment of Hillary Clinton's 2000 campaign-finance director, David Rosen, may pose a threat to the senator's presidential bid. For now, the federal indictment is focused only on Rosen, but it is not hard to see the process creeping up the campaign food chain to the senator herself.

At issue are the expenses the campaign incurred in an August 2000 fund-raiser for Hollywood glitterati. Rosen was indicted for claiming that the event cost $400,000 when, federal prosecutors allege, he knew the actual cost to be $1.1 million. Under federal campaign-finance rules, the Clinton campaign was obliged to pay for 40 percent of the cost of the fund-raiser. So, if the gala cost $400,000, the campaign had to pay only $160,000, but if the price tag was actually $1.1 million, the campaign would have been on the hook for $440,000.

By understating the cost of the party, Rosen was, in effect, giving Hillary's campaign an extra $280,000.


While there is no indication that the Senate candidate knew of the understating of the cost of the event, is it credible that she would not be aware of a decision that gave her campaign more than a quarter of a million dollars as it entered the final three months before the election?

Remember what was happening in August and September of 2000 in the New York Senate race. Republican Rick Lazio was gaining traction despite his late start (after Rudy withdrew) and had raised massive amounts of hard money through direct mail. Most of Hillary's money was in soft-money contributions.

Exploiting Hillary's long-time stand against soft money, Lazio challenged the first lady to eschew soft money and restrict her campaign to hard-money donations, raised under a limit of $1,000 per contributor.

This challenge threw Hillary's campaign into a panic. It could not hope to compete in hard money. It was at this time that Rosen chose to underestimate the cost of the Hollywood fund-raiser.

The sum involved was enough to pay for almost an entire week of television advertising in New York City and exceeds the total media budget of many smaller campaigns.

To raise this sum, Hillary would have had to get 280 donors to give the maximum $1,000 individual donation permitted under federal law at the time. A decision of this magnitude — how much to say the event cost — would have been a huge issue within the campaign.

This is no clerical error, nor is it likely to be one young man's decision to commit fraud to help the campaign. It is just not credible to believe that Hillary didn't know about and approve of the understatement of the event's cost.


Hillary has always been a detail person who kept a hawk-like focus on the cost of even her husband's campaigns. How much more involved and fixated she must have been on a major financial decision that affected her own election effort.


The federal indictment of the key financial officer in Hillary's campaign — an event The New York Times did not see fit to put on the front page — shows that Sen. Clinton has not escaped from the culture of scandal that dogged her husband's presidency.

The question of who understated the cost of the Hollywood event now joins the pantheon of questions that have haunted the senator's past — Who hid the billing records? Who ordered the travel office firings? Who helped Hillary to make a killing in the commodities market? Did the first lady know her brother was paid to secure a pardon for a major drug trafficker? Did Hillary represent the Madison Bank in a fraudulent real-estate deal? Who ordered the removal of the FBI files?


Hillary's ethical obtuseness is truly Nixonian. Usually campaign-finance filing errors are so mundane that they draw light fines from the Federal Elections Commission. That her campaign committed so important a breach of the finance laws that govern elections that her finance chairman is under a federal indictment is truly extraordinary.


If young David Rosen wants to take the fall for Hillary and join the likes of Web Hubbell and Susan McDougal, who chose to languish in prison rather than tell the truth, that is his decision. But don't ask us to believe something the average 8-year-old knows can't be true: that a gain to the campaign of $280,000 was beneath Hillary's notice.


164 posted on 10/09/2005 2:59:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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