Posted on 10/08/2005 5:49:16 AM PDT by Pharmboy
What moron said that?
In which case those Vietnamese daughters would come home with their report cards and explain to Father exactly what every word said. And they would tell the truth.
We're killing ourselves.
I doubt it'll be in Vietnamese, they're not a big population in NYC.
And in any case, Vietnamese kids typically excel in scholastics regardless of the parents' command of English.
You are right and I have seen it many times. There's a certain cultural characteristic too.
6. Ebonics
What you be talkin' about Willis???
Thee are far more Polish, Paki, Thai, Bulgarian, Albanian new comers in NYC than vietnamese. The VNese are just not a NY factor.
Yiddish use:
36,461 (under 18)
77,053 (Adults)
113,514 (Total)
In comparison, English (13m) + Spanish (2.5m) constitute 15 million adults and students.
Whoops. I meant to say the MLA link DOES NOT give the city data.
English is spoken at home by 72.05% of people over 5 years old in New York.
Languages other than English are spoken at home by 27.95%.
Speakers of languages other than English are divided up as follows.
When a country adopts laws like this and tries to be every thing to every body that country cease to exist. There is such a thing as going too far.
How many multi-cultures can a country have before the country becomes a NO country and becomes just a GREAT PLACE TO LIVE IN?
They should also demand publication and dissemination of subway maps in farsi.
We only usually have Spanish and English here and not too many Spanish speakers. I had one girl in my class whose Dad could speak a little English, but her mom spoke Spanish only. T tried for a while to have my notes done in Spanish, but it was very time consuming. It was hard for the girl to get things reinforced at home because the vowels to the mom were aw, ay, ee, oh, oo so that's what she taught her daughter. The dad was not home much and they didn't have a phone for a LONG time. I had to stop by if I wanted to communicate sometimes. I tried to set an appointment for a parent-teachers' conference one time and it took me an hour before the mom understood what was being said. But later in the year it got better as the mom would show up (and once in a while the dad) to get more information about things. The girl was one of my favorite students ever. She LOVED to learn. She always came and said, "I'm having a great day!" By the end of the year, she went from not knowing English to being able to read on a mid first grade level (not quite grade level, but close) and being able to write. Her dad and mom (not illegal aliens by the way) ended up moving back to Mexico the following year.
I taught English to foreigners for a few years. English is not that easy to learn. The Vietnamese generally tried harder, actually a lot of the students really tried hard. But when you get older, you don't have as much linguistic talent. Nonetheless, many had succeeded and most didn't expect many favors. The Bosnians I had did at the time. They were required to attend English class, but often didn't come. They expected their teacher to sign their attendance forms that they had come and threw a hissy fit when we wouldn't.
The second generation of immigrants often does speak the language. I have seen a ton of them who speak English to their parents.
In my time in Korea, I saw many, many, many foreigners and Americans (most of them residents). Of all the ones I saw, maybe only a few tried to learn about the Korean language and culture. Most expected and looked for Koreans who spoke English to help them out. I see it a lot here too with Spanish speakers sometimes.
True though often some European immigrants would live in their own little enclaves for a time. My ancestors though did try to adapt to the culture. I do see some here that do and some that don't.
That's sure how the bureaucrats see it; when the immigrants are asked, they want their kids to learn English.
Agreed pretty much.
In which case those Vietnamese daughters would come home with their report cards and explain to Father exactly what every word said. And they would tell the truth.
You got a point there. :)
We live in NW Nassau, right next to the Queens border and before we bought this house we lived in Forest Hills in Queens. The cost of a fixer-upper here is north of $600k...no welfare types or the government is my daddy types can touch it. The same is true of all the neighborhoods across the city line in Queens.
There are about twenty houses on our block. In the past five years at least six of them have turned over. Five of those six went to first generation immigrants (people born someplace else). Three of these families are from India (two Christian - one Hindu). One family is Korean and one is from Peru. None of these folks were wealthy in their homeland. They all came here with nothing but drive. They all now live in homes costing $600-750K. How do you think they did that in less than one generation? Education and hard work.
The kids are aggressively American. Among them these families have three sons in uniform (one Marine, one Air Force and one Army). There are no sons or daughters serving from the native families on the block. Every single college aged kid from these families is in school (except the Marine). There is not a slacker in the bunch. Anyone of us would be proud to have a family like these.
NYC always sees what America will look like first. A hundred years ago you would have been hard pressed to find Italian, Greek, Jewish Americans in places like Kansas, Alabama, Oregon, etc. Now just pick up the phone book. Fifty years ago the same would have been true of Puerto Ricans or Cubans. Thirty years from now it will be true for Indians, Koreans, Russians, etc.
Relax, America is doing fine.
This is another anti-American cave-in to multiculturalism. I challenge anyone to name anywhere in the world throughout man's history that benefited from multiculturalism.
It depends on how it is used. In the current sense, probably not. But if a group of immigrants came together in a community and worked together for a common purpose (becoming adapted and part of the society), while respecting differences, that is not bad. Our language, many of our customs, culture, etc. often reflect the many different cultures that have become a part of American society. That isn't bad. It's when they choose to withdraw themselves in their own little places that it is not.
Koreans have been called the model minority. And many immigrants I have known have worked hard and made their way. There are however, some that expect American society to provide them a free ride.
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