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Spain's government has announced plans to upgrade the border fences around the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla. The security system detailed in the graphic will be installed in the hope of preventing groups of immigrants from storming the fences.

1 posted on 10/07/2005 3:38:49 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

exactly what the United States needs from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico


2 posted on 10/07/2005 3:40:00 PM PDT by injin
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We need that from the Otay Mesa to the mouth of the Rio Grande.


3 posted on 10/07/2005 3:41:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Ah, the only pork the GOP majority *refuses* to fund.


5 posted on 10/07/2005 3:42:57 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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How about the northern border?


6 posted on 10/07/2005 3:44:37 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Isn't Spain worried that their Muslim population might object and blow up another train or two? After all, some of these African migrants are undoubtedly Muslims.


7 posted on 10/07/2005 3:45:37 PM PDT by hershey
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While I'm not for shooting illegals I am for making any attempt to enter illegally both difficult and carrying painful consequences. As it stands now we catch a bunch of Illegals and either deport them straightaway or release them pending a hearing. If deported they just keep trying until they are successful. If released pending a hearing they just disappear. i.e., There is no downside to attempting Illegal entry.

Love the idea of the fence and will never understand why it isn't already in place let alone not even on the drawing board.

10 posted on 10/07/2005 3:48:44 PM PDT by drt1
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Radar and day/vision security cameras, tear gas diffusion system, detection wires, 6 m steel fence, barbed wire.

Bump.

11 posted on 10/07/2005 3:49:22 PM PDT by A. Pole (For today's Democrats abortion and "gay marriage" are more important that the whole New Deal legacy.)
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I thought that the current Spanish government,which was hand-picked by Bin Laden himself,was oh-so-progressive.

I mean,they've declared the US to be the most dangerous nation on earth and they've declared homosexual marriage to be just fine and dandy.

And now we see them trying to deny these poor "undocumented workers" the opportunity to enter their "Utopia".

Do I detect a very large whiff of hypocrisy on the part of this enlightened continent we call "Europe"?

14 posted on 10/07/2005 3:53:40 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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They need to put about 20,000 volts of juice to that fence.


17 posted on 10/07/2005 4:02:54 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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This is a joke. Zapaterro relaxed policing on illegal immigration about 1 year ago and gave an amnesty for illegal aliens. Blah about inhumanity and human rights and other nonsense, but the reason really was increasing socialist voting base by naturalising illegals. The Africans now coming in simply saw that as tacit approval of illegal immigration.

Now that France and the voters are starting to grumble, the dood is backpedalling and building a monstrous fence.

Typical lib. First stuffs it up, then has to pay huge bucks and enact harsh treatment to sort the mess out. instead of just sticking to the initial policy under Aznar.
19 posted on 10/07/2005 4:09:31 PM PDT by seppel
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An aid agency says it has found more than 500 migrants abandoned in the Moroccan desert after being expelled from Spain's North African enclaves.

The migrants said they had entered or tried to enter Ceuta and Melilla but were forced back, loaded onto trucks and driven to the Algerian border.

Count yourselves lucky I'm not Dictator Of he World, pig-criminal scum.

"the sending back of immigrants as agreed by Spain and Morocco to a country which does not have minimal capacity to receive them violates Article Three of the (UN) Convention against Torture".

The way I read it, if they can successfully break & enter, the victim then has a perpetual obligation to feed, clothe, medicate, and house them.

And, yet, their voluntarily entering Morocco illegally, and camping there until ready to attempt crashing the fence, is perfectly fine? It is only being tossed back that is "torture"?

Just more proof the UN is a criminal enterprise, of the criminals, by the criminals, for the criminals.

21 posted on 10/07/2005 4:15:57 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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Spain's government has announced plans to upgrade the border fences around the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla. The security system detailed in the graphic will be installed in the hope of preventing groups of immigrants from storming the fences.

Where is the outrage? Where are the calls from the White House to exercise restraint? Doesn't the world understand that poor Palestinians are offended by this fence?

Oh, this is Spain and not Israel? Ah, then it's OK to have a fence. One standard for Israel, another for the rest of the wold.

22 posted on 10/07/2005 4:22:13 PM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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That's a pretty nice wall!

We might impove on it just a tad but we still need one of those!
I like concrete.

23 posted on 10/07/2005 4:25:14 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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I never thought I would see a decision of ZP clapped in this forum. Isn't it funny how socialists can change their minds when the have to match their leftists dreams with reality? That's exactly like when the PSOE took Spain into NATO after winning the 82' elections with an anti-NATO speech.

On the other hand, I haven't seen any comment about the obvious lie in the article.

How many trucks do you need for 500 people??? 20? 25?

So the Spanish police sneaked through the border with at least 20 trucks and drove hundreds of miles into a foreign country without being noticed and then went back???

I admire the job of MSF but they should be included in all the handbooks about Stokholm syndrome as the most flattering example. You can't just simply believe everything that this people say. The fact that they are desperate just makes them more likely to lie, not the other way.


33 posted on 10/08/2005 4:56:11 AM PDT by Spanishguy
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