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CA: Schwarzenegger signs `green' legislation (29 times!)
Mercury News ^ | 10/7/05 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 10/07/2005 8:58:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
One will require all new cars for sale in California starting in 2009 to display stickers explaining how many tons of global warming-causing gases they emit.

Like I really give a rat's rectum how much pollution my big pickup truck spews into the air.

21 posted on 10/07/2005 9:38:41 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: Boundless
> ... require farmers to report for the first time to the state the amount of groundwater they pump, ..
Is the state going to pay for the meters, which many of these farmers won't already have?

You have to have metered water before you can start charging them for it. That is Plan B, which I understand, was already tried in Texas. Dunno if that one went through as it was reported that one lanky rancher stood up and told the officials that they'd better have a lot of meter readers because "the ones you send out ain't a'comin' back."

22 posted on 10/07/2005 9:41:03 AM PDT by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: NormsRevenge

It says that one law will require all CA cars to display the amount of "Greenhouse gases" they emit. That is easy and can be done now. The answer is zero! There is no such thing as global warming.


23 posted on 10/07/2005 9:59:10 AM PDT by upier (Stop Child abuse - Teach your children English!)
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To: Looper
Are you series?
24 posted on 10/07/2005 10:05:11 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Hildy
Hildy said: "IT WAS STILL BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD."

Liberals in Kalifornia should have been given a choice between continuing with Davis or adopting "Republican" policies.

I would challenge you to describe how things would be worse now if Davis had remained in office.

Would spending be higher? Higher than $115 billion?

Would more environmental laws be passed? Which ones?

Would more businesses be leaving Kalifornia? Which ones?

Would there be more tax revenue? By what means?

Would Kalifornia's long term debt be higher? By how much and through what means?

25 posted on 10/07/2005 10:25:55 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-arnold2oct02,0,2170774.story?coll=la-home-headlines

But since taking office, Schwarzenegger has also pressed an initiative to curb greenhouse gas emissions that goes beyond the Kyoto treaty that Bush rejected. He has supported stem cell research — opposed by many social conservatives and limited by the president — as well as a plan to outfit 1 million homes with solar power. In contrast to former Gov. Gray Davis, Schwarzenegger has been more willing to grant freedom to murderers and other convicts judged suitable for release by the state parole board.

Most strikingly, Schwarzenegger has drawn heavily from Democratic ranks to stock his administration and California’s judiciary. About half of his appointees to 1,566 state positions have been Republicans. A quarter have been Democrats and 14% independents. Nearly four in 10 of his judicial appointees have been Democrats and about half Republicans.

By contrast, 85% of Bush’s U.S. District Court appointees in his first term were Republicans, according to a survey conducted for the American Judicature Society, a nonpartisan research group. Of a dozen Cabinet secretaries — the highest-ranking officials in the Schwarzenegger administration — four are Democrats and one is not registered with any party. Democrats in the Cabinet head two of the largest state bureaucracies — Business, Transportation and Housing and the Department of Corrections — as well as the California Environmental Protection Agency and the education agency.


26 posted on 10/07/2005 10:38:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Looper

I have to agree. It seems lots of conservatives have rather high standards for Republican leaders who are doing the heavy lifting on the big issues.


27 posted on 10/07/2005 10:45:34 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Looper; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; Czar
Arnie is the best thing to happen for conservatives in California since George Deukmejian

Deukmejian... hmmmm. That's the guy who supported Prop 111 giving us new gas taxes, while the fine print also obliterated the Gann spending limit. Yes, I do see the similarities.

He has shown tremendous political courage by pushing his initiatives ...

Courage maybe, but not much good for California. $15 Billion of Prop 57/58 borrowing enabled even higher spending than Davis could have dreamed of and put us in more debt for decades to come. Oh, and he backed Prop 71, the $3 Billion Stem-Cell research scam. More borrowing, more debt, with no accountability or return for the state. Supporting his initiatives can be expensive and deadly. Prop 76 authorizes more bonds. Proposition 78, socialized medicine light, is also a sham.

I will probably support Proposition 73, 74, and 75. The others are highly questionable, IMO.

28 posted on 10/07/2005 11:02:40 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
"Courage maybe, but not much good for California. $15 Billion of Prop 57/58 borrowing enabled even higher spending than Davis could have dreamed of and put us in more debt for decades to come. Oh, and he backed Prop 71, the $3 Billion Stem-Cell research scam. More borrowing, more debt, with no accountability or return for the state. Supporting his initiatives can be expensive and deadly. Prop 76 authorizes more bonds. Proposition 78, socialized medicine light, is also a sham.

It ought to be pretty clear by now to even the most ardent Arnie-bot that he will borrow and/or raise taxes before he will cut anything. Anyone still stupid enough to support him needs to understand this.

30 posted on 10/07/2005 1:06:47 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Sunana
"Are you cereal?"

Nope! I bees the wicked, angry Waspman in Schwartzenegger's asinine Sierra-Neveda CONservancy!!!

Are you happy??? (grin)

31 posted on 10/07/2005 3:20:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: William Tell; Hildy; calcowgirl; FOG724; NormsRevenge

Do tell... William Tell!!!


32 posted on 10/07/2005 3:22:25 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: calcowgirl; Looper; Carry_Okie; Czar; Grampa Dave
Yeah!!! He was the Dukie Dipstick that PROMISED that not one penny of Prop 111 would go for ANYTHING but roads!!!

Then we found commercial whitewater rafting corporations on the South Fork of the American River getting "Environmental Mitigation" grants from Cal-Trans being laundered through "Not For Profit" corporations called the American River CONservancy to install rafting "put-in" facilities in the river bottom to be washed out by floods each year, because a new replacement bridge was installed on State Route 193 just north of Placerville, CA in 1997 near the site!!!

Now do you understand why the rafting industry always invites Republican Governors to a free rafting trip after the rigors of winning election??? The Dorkie Duke din't tell us the truth, either!!!

33 posted on 10/07/2005 3:36:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Czar

Ok, you've got a point on the borrowing. But he CUT taxes.
You've to admit that paycheck protection and taking on the teachers union is long overdue and takes guts on his part and is good for California.

Re the Duke, let's see, when was the last time a governor mailed you a check because the state had collected too much in taxes? That's what I thought. That's what Duke did. Compare that to Davis, who locked in pensions and entitlements. Also, Duke cleared out Rose Bird et al. and appointed bonafide CONSERVATIVE judges and restored some sanity to the court system here.


34 posted on 10/07/2005 3:48:16 PM PDT by Looper
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To: NormsRevenge
One will require all new cars for sale in California starting in 2009 to display stickers explaining how many tons of global warming-causing gases they emit.

LOL...the idiotic emissions rules in California cause more "global warming-causing gases" to be emitted, since the basically ban diesel cars.

35 posted on 10/07/2005 3:54:20 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Looper
"But he CUT taxes."

If you're talking about that idiotic auto fees thing, no he didn't, although he certainly tried to take credit for it. And you can be sure that one will be the last tax cut you will see under "Arnie the Borrower".

"You've to admit that paycheck protection and taking on the teachers union is long overdue and takes guts on his part and is good for California."

I plan to vote YES on both.

36 posted on 10/07/2005 4:06:10 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Looper
He deserves our support.

It's assumed you meant Republican support.

It would be difficult to justify asking conservatives to support Schwarzenegger.

37 posted on 10/07/2005 4:21:41 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
"It would be difficult to justify asking conservatives to support Schwarzenegger."

And impossible for conservatives to actually do so.

38 posted on 10/07/2005 4:37:39 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: William Tell

standing ovation!


39 posted on 10/07/2005 9:53:32 PM PDT by FOG724 (Down with the sickness - Disturbed)
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