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G.E. Commits to Dredging 43 Miles of Hudson River
NY Times ^ | October 7, 2005 | ANTHONY DePALMA

Posted on 10/06/2005 7:16:54 PM PDT by neverdem

Nearly three decades after PCB's were discovered in the upper Hudson River, General Electric made a binding agreement yesterday to dredge the dangerous chemicals from the river in one of the largest and most expensive industrial cleanups in history.

The agreement appears to end years of resistance by G.E. and initiates a process in which the company could eventually spend hundreds of millions of dollars to remove PCB's from 43 miles of river bottom stretching from Hudson Falls to Troy.

Work will start in the spring of 2007 and could be completed in six years, if there are no interruptions.

But there are no guarantees that the $700 million project will go smoothly, because the consent decree splits the cleanup into two phases. While General Electric has agreed to Phase 1, it will not make a decision about the second phase until the first is completed. The company also agreed to pay $78 million to cover government costs associated with the cleanup, on top of $37 million it has already paid.

General Electric used PCB's, or polychlorinated biphenyls, in the manufacture of transformers. PCB's were banned in 1976, but the large amount of the chemicals that G.E. had discharged into the Hudson had settled into the bottom of the river, where they posed a continuing threat to the environment and to people who ate fish caught in the Hudson.

For years the company argued that dredging the river mud would cause more problems than leaving the PCB's undisturbed. Environmental groups and community organizations along the river claimed yesterday that the consent decree did not ensure that the entire river would ever be decontaminated.

Under the terms of the agreement, G.E. will dredge the heaviest deposits of PCB's, at a cost of $100 million to $150 million. That work, which is...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Technical; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: generalelectric; hudsonriver; pcb; pollution
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This will probably have unintended consequences and become a fiasco. I hope I'm wrong.
1 posted on 10/06/2005 7:17:00 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem


Drudging? Does Matt know about this?


2 posted on 10/06/2005 7:21:31 PM PDT by msnimje (If you suspect this post might need a sarcasm tag..... it does!)
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To: neverdem

Vain hope.


3 posted on 10/06/2005 7:22:55 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: neverdem

Of course it will. The PCBs will become suspended in the water, and then the lefties will sue GE because they dredged it.


4 posted on 10/06/2005 7:25:54 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: neverdem
The Shadow Knows..(corrected headline)

Government Extorts G.E. Into Paying for the Destruction of 43 Miles of Clean, Pristine, Hudson River.

Self encapsulating PCB's to be released in swirling muck all the way to NYC.


5 posted on 10/06/2005 7:26:22 PM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: neverdem

Somebody please tell me if I am wrong. The PCB's are lying on the river bottom. Probably pretty harmless because they are sediment and just laying there. Now when they start dredging, they will stir up the bottom and silt wil be washed downstream expanding the contaminated area. Making things worse. Then just what are they going to do with the tons of silt that doesnt wash downstream? Sometimes if it aint broke , dont fix it.


6 posted on 10/06/2005 7:49:44 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: neverdem
There are so many angles to this.

First, the government gave GE permission to dump the PCB's in the first place. What GE did was legal and permissable. After the fact, society changes and decides that it doesn't want the PCB's. Who should pay, GE, or Society?

2nd. GE has made the argument that leaving the PCB's is safer than stirring them up. I don't know if that is true or not, but the same damn environmentalist who say dredge them up won't allow dredging of New York harbor because of the environmental damage they think dredging will do

All this suggests the main motivation against GE is just a shakedown.

7 posted on 10/06/2005 8:12:27 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

"All this suggests the main motivation against GE is just a shakedown."

We have a bingo.

This looks like a really stupid move to me.


8 posted on 10/06/2005 8:21:21 PM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
"All this suggests the main motivation against GE is just a shakedown."

A shakedown without a benefit. Typical liberal attitude -- through tons of money at a "problem whether or not it will help.

9 posted on 10/06/2005 8:25:33 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (They misunderestimated Roberts; now they are misunderestimating Miers)
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To: neverdem

it's a deep pocket grab. some unions somewhere cooked this up and some politicos went with it. sickening. ought to make for some interesting marine engineering, though.


10 posted on 10/06/2005 8:33:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: You Dirty Rats

" "All this suggests the main motivation against GE is just a shakedown."

A shakedown without a benefit. "

There is a major benefit from the Communism Lite perspective. America wastes the total amount of money in the settlement because the premise of the action is false.

If you are trying to handicap or destroy America - and they are - then you do it one industry or one large company at a time.


11 posted on 10/06/2005 9:09:11 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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12 posted on 10/06/2005 9:37:09 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: GladesGuru

Lest we forget...the asbestos fiasco.......another attorney welfare project!


13 posted on 10/06/2005 9:37:38 PM PDT by Claytonbridge
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To: neverdem

Bad move, GE. You are just feeding the alligator.


14 posted on 10/06/2005 10:02:39 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Claytonbridge
From what I understand the PCB's are buried now after many years in river bed sediment. This dredging will stir the whole damned riverbed up again and put the PCB's back into suspension in the water.

This will take years and the PCB laden sludge will be dumped on land and numerous sites along the river. I'm sure local residents near this sludge dump will just love it.

This also doesn't take into consideration the possibility of high water during during a heavy snow melt or high rainfall just waiting to cause a disaster for any means of control over the situation.

If the enviros are worried about the PCBs now they haven't seen anything yet once the digging starts.

The blatant stupidity and waste of money involved in this project is mind boggling.

I can't wait to see the news stories on this undertaking as it progresses in the years to come. We'll have our very own "Big Dig" fiasco.
15 posted on 10/06/2005 10:08:28 PM PDT by headstamp
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To: the invisib1e hand

They ought to prospect the silt for gold dust, throw the fish back, and no mercy for the crawdads.


16 posted on 10/07/2005 12:19:37 AM PDT by carumba
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To: neverdem

I'm interested in those subjects, but I'm not about to register on the NY Slimes site.


17 posted on 10/07/2005 1:46:56 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
Who does? Register, that is.

Try getting a password from www.bugmenot.com.

At one paper, the password: bugmenotjunk@hotmail.com worked, followed by the user: ID bugmenotjunk.

Using it means they can follow basic orders, like "BUG ME NOT!!!

:-)
18 posted on 10/07/2005 4:25:41 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: neverdem
Do PCB's have a chemical life? If so ,it should be deteriorating after these years. Maybe it would be better to just let it lay and dissolve into a harmless chemical.
19 posted on 10/07/2005 5:11:39 AM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: neverdem

LEAVE EM ALONE!!!

PCB's end up burried by new sedement and are best left be.

Dredging is just going to put them back into the water.


20 posted on 10/07/2005 5:13:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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