With Lenin's Ideas Dead, Russia Weighs What to Do With Body

The Ledger ^ | October 5, 2005 | C. J. CHIVERS

[Constitution Day]

No kidding. ESPECIALLY Lenin's.
Did you see this? Ewww.

Time has been unkind to Lenin, whose remains here in Red Square are said to sprout occasional fungi...

Of course, the body of philosopher Jeremy Bentham has been on display for almost 175 years.
His head is wax, though.

[Don W]

I think his body hould be taken to a secret area in the Katyn (sp?) forest and burned, just as he had the Romanovs disposed of.

[Charles Martel]

Sell him on e-bay. That would convince me that Russia has embraced capitalism.

LOL! Indeed. It'd make a heck of a television ad, too.

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[RightWingAtheist]

Bury him under a disco, so that Russians can dance on his grave.

[Cheburashka]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin

Scroll down to "Lenin's Brain Study".

[Mi-kha-el]

"brides and grooms would make a stop there between wedding and reception... "

Actually, brides and grooms went to the Unknown Soldier Tomb near the Kremlin wall, which is a nice tradition, IMHO. To visit Lenin Tomb on such occasion would be weird, IMHO.

[Cheburashka]

Can you tell me about the quality of life peasants faced in russia in, say, 1905? Would they have any motive to be discontented with the monarchy?

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Lenin had nothing to do with the overthrow of the monarchy.

The February Revolution overthrew the Monarchy and installed the Provisional Government. The Provisional Government set elections for November, 1917 to elect delegates to the Constituent Assembly, which was to write a constitution for Russia and govern Russia until the elections under that constitution were held.

In October, 1917, Lenin held a putsch to overthrow the Provisional Government, but the elections were held as scheduled the next month. The Bolsheviks got 24% of the votes.

In January, 1918 the Constituent Assembly met for one session and then Lenin and the Bolsheviks refused to let it meet again.

The Whites in the Russian Civil War were fighting for the restoration of the Constituent Assembly, not the return of the Tzar as the Bolsheviks propagandized.

That one day was the only day that Russia had an democratically elected government until Boris Yeltsin became President of Russia.

Lenin was a murderous thug. He just didn't have the time to get his killing machine organized. Stalin did.

[Cheburashka]

Lenin bore a grudge against the Romanovs because they had his brother killed. He wanted to ensure that there were no more claimants to the throne. Not that that excuses the act of course.
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You didn't excuse Lenin's action, and I recognize that, but I still think you give him too much credit.

1) The Tzar's daughters' claim to the throne (which was non-existent at this time) was only after all the male Romanovs (of which there were about 35 on January 1, 1918) were dead. Rather thin excuse to kill anybody.

2) Alexander III, the man Lenin's elder brother attempted to murder, actually met with Lenin's mother before the execution to hear her pleas for his life, although he still allowed the execution of Alexander Ulyanov to take place. When did Lenin ever meet with the relatives of anyone he killed?

[Cheburashka]

I think his body hould be taken to a secret area in the Katyn (sp?) forest and burned, just as he had the Romanovs disposed of.
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Actually the Tzar's family (not all of it, they never found all the bodies) was reburied in July, 1998 (seventy years after the murders) in the family crypt in St. Peterburg, Russia.

His successor as head of the Russian state, President Boris Yeltsin, gave the eulogy.

Most of the bodies had been thrown into a pit by the Bolsheviks, not burned.

[WKUHilltopper]

Russia Weighs What to Do With Body--how about catfish bait?

[Borges]

Not making him out to be any better then you claim he was.

[SevenDaysInMay]

Lenin should be stripped, taken north to be tied to trees and beaten -so the biting flies "could bleed him dry" as his inspired Politburo Red Army murderers did to so many men, women, and children - for the Peoples' Revolution.

Hitlary knows that vicious, communist Lenin was shot in his head by a disgruntled mere socialist, a woman with her own gun. She was propmtly "executed" by Lenin's Secret Police security.

Power by any means calls for liberty by any means.

[Mi-kha-el]

"to me why he had his minions murder the Tsar and his ENTIRE family"

There is a theory that that was a mere revenge for his brother Alexander who had been executed for participating in a conspiracy to assasinate Nikolas II predecessor. We were told Lenin idolized his big brother but decided to "go a different way". And he won. Eventually, he lost, but in the short run he won.

[Mi-kha-el]

"he would have showed us a "kinder, gentler" communism"

He did. His NEP was kind of Chinese pseudocapitalism.

[theDentist]

Well, if winter gets cold enough they can always make sandwiches.

[ichabod1]

Kennedy DEFINITELY looks like an old soviet. Clintoon not so much any more since he lost weight, but before with that fat face and vacuum cleaner nose he sure as heck did too. Good call.

I fear this country is going to have to go all the way to communism for a while before the whole house of cards crumbles. We are putting up a valiant fight, but with all the sellouts and turncoats on the right it's hard to see how we can prevail.

[ichabod1]

Lenin took over the country in a violent coup d'etat by pretending to represent the workers, which he did NOT. He pretended to be the majority party, which is what Bolshevik means, and it was a lie intended to convince people he had more power than he did. Much like the radical left claiming to be mainstream when they are anything but. Lenin was most certainly NOT a good person.

[ichabod1]

Well, the Saints despite being incorruptible still need a little maintenance every now and then too...

[ichabod1]

Lenin would likely have done away with Stalin if he hadn't died. He knew what Stalin was. Either that or Stalin would have knocked off Lenin. There wasn't enough room for both of those monsters.

[ichabod1]

I heard yesterday on Fox & Friends that Lenin has turned (appropriately) bright red.