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TV Tower Wires Kill 400 Birds in One Night
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | October 5, 2005 | Ron Seely

Posted on 10/05/2005 2:26:36 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I hope the Powers That Be develop procedures that protect birds in migration from the ill-effects of these towers. Surely something can be done that is of minimal cost but also environmentally friendly.


81 posted on 10/05/2005 7:29:40 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Paging KFC, paging KFC,please pick up the white courtesy phone.


82 posted on 10/05/2005 7:31:14 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (I take live with a grain of salt, a bit of lime, 1 part triple sec, and 3 parts tequila.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Of course I do. I enjoy sarcasm and easy jokes... I come with a personality. I should hope nobody mistakes my joking for serious policy preference - as you can see I am fully prepared to answer serious concerns, such as yours, with an appropriate level of seriousness.


83 posted on 10/05/2005 7:32:35 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Aren't the "reality-based community" folks the same ones who insist there is no objective reality?)
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To: thoughtomator

SO many birds died because the bird population is growing so fast.

Good environmental news or bad environmental news?

At least it wasn't the bird flu passed from humans to birds.


84 posted on 10/05/2005 7:38:18 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: HairOfTheDog

I posted it. Lighten up!


85 posted on 10/06/2005 9:55:01 AM PDT by GSWarrior (To activate this tagline, please contact the administrator.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This can't be right....according to Wildlife officials in Florida and Wisconsin----only feral cats kill birds.


86 posted on 10/06/2005 12:10:28 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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To: Slicksadick

What kills most birds is chemicals and urban sprawl....not a cat.


87 posted on 10/06/2005 12:12:20 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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To: quantim
A quick Google says WI DOT removed over 48,000 deer carcasses last year.

That doesn't take into account that they probably left triple that number on the side of the road to rot.

88 posted on 10/06/2005 1:45:17 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: Fawn

Well, the propaganda on either side doesn't seem to be working to anyone's benefit. Wisconsin still won't let me shoot the feral cats that kill my chickens for fun (they don't eat them, just kill them) and rape (if they're cooperative) or kill (if they put up a fight) my spayed (at my expense) female barn cats employed as professional mouse exterminators. Or is that wrong, too? Should I just let nature be and let her overrun my farm with mice and rats?

Can you give me some data links proving that chemicals and urban sprawl kill more birds than do cats? Got any data on how many feral cats kill domestic or farm cats if they're off the hook for killing songbirds?

Thanks in advance. :)


89 posted on 10/06/2005 1:46:57 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Ugoretz said the WMTV tower is of special concern because of its 1,100-foot height. Nighttime neotropical migrants usually fly at altitudes of 1,000 to 2,000 feet. Other towers in the Madison area, he added, don't seem to cause as many kills, although collection of such data is spotty when it exists.

I think this hints to the real issue here. I live in Wisconsin and about 10 years ago I lived in Madison. In the early 90's The University Of Wisconsin Board Of Regents built a big tower at the west edge of town. The idea was that all the other towers in the city would come down and everyone would migrate to the new, taller one. Well, WMTV (NBC Channel 15) declined to join the others and kept thier older, shorter tower, which is right next to thier studios on Forward Dr.

My suspicion is that someone wants this land and is using this as an opportunity to force WMTV to migrate to the other tower. The fact that the new tower is owned by the University Of Wisconsin is probably no coincidence...

Link to picture of the University's 1400+' tower

90 posted on 10/06/2005 2:28:33 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Oooo! Good Freepin' there, Blue! :)


91 posted on 10/06/2005 3:00:02 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

When I get some time, I will look up the articles that show how chemical spraying in ponds, air and landscapers are killing the birds off.....not to mention urban sprawl. In the meantime let me tell you that I too feed feral cats. I also feed birds. Since I 'feed' the cats....they don't wan too or even try to 'kill' the birds. Perhaps if you left some food....they would cherish any amount you provide...then they won't have to go after your chickens. I find it hard to believe a cat can kill a chicken....but if hungry enough maybe they can. I hope you get your barn cats fixed? That will also help with your feral cat problem.


92 posted on 10/06/2005 3:08:07 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Here is some data right now on Pesticides killing off the birds: Pesticides killing birds
Here in Florida after they spray for mosquitos and spray the ponds for algae--you will literally see birds dropping out of trees and fish floating on the water. Also...lets not leave those raccoons out of the picture...they climb trees for bird eggs constantly.
93 posted on 10/06/2005 3:29:28 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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To: Fawn

"Perhaps if you left some food....they would cherish any amount you provide...then they won't have to go after your chickens. I find it hard to believe a cat can kill a chicken....but if hungry enough maybe they can. I hope you get your barn cats fixed? That will also help with your feral cat problem."

You obviously don't know a thing about making a living on a farm. A hawk, a rat, a feral cat, an owl, wild mink...many things kill chickens. Even I kill chickens when it's suppertime, LOL!

But I'm NOT going to feed feral cats! You're feeding wild/feral cats? You're part of the problem then, not part of the solution. I doubt we'll find any middle ground on this one. Trust me, feeding feral cats does not stop them from killing small livestock and songbirds. Killing is what they do. Food, sex, killing things. That pretty much sums up a feral cat's day.

And yes, as I posted above, my dogs and cats, inside and out, are all fixed. :)


94 posted on 10/06/2005 3:39:42 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Feeding feral cats (while getting them fixed) has been a hobby of mine for 20 years now.....look up TNR. It's proven to be true. I don't believe in letting a cat that was left behind from a careless person starve to death for no reason. And like I pointed out...I feed the ferals around my house and they have yet to kill any cardinal, bluejay, pidgeon or any other bird that come to my feeders. It's because they are not hungry. Killing is not what cats do....it's what anything would do when hungry.


95 posted on 10/06/2005 4:13:21 PM PDT by Fawn (Try Not----Do or Do not ~~ Yoda)
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