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To: Desert_Girl

well, those questions require pretty detailed answers that i don't care to get into. suffice it to say that eventually it will be worked out by the market. for the time being, the only work around would be complex routing schemes by the carriers stuck in the middle. for those suggesting that they leave their carrier or demand that the carrier go somewhere else for service, such as roadrunner.... all i can say is that they would be shooting themselves in the foot by doing so.

as i said, i have a dog in this fight, but the best permanent solution would be for cogent to agree to a mroe equitable peering relationship and stop using other carrier's networks for a free ride, and then undercutting prices because they have no network infrastructure to pay for.

and be on the lookout; there will be lots more of this stuff coming, and not just between my company and others. this has been a brewing issue for some time now.


116 posted on 10/05/2005 6:01:50 PM PDT by DMinus
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To: DMinus

I do understand what you are saying. It would be a lot more palatable to those of us stuck in the middle if we knew what was going on and had some sort of timeline. As I stated earlier, for me, its not just drudge, but some important sites that my family relies on. I guess if I whine and complain enough, at least I might feel better, omg. Thanks for your info anyway.


117 posted on 10/05/2005 6:06:03 PM PDT by Desert_Girl (A scar is what happens when the world is made flesh)
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To: DMinus

Well- for all the good it will do I just called my local RR- and spoke with the tech fellow on call- I asked WHEN will this be resolved...he said we have no answer for that at this time.

FUBAR.


118 posted on 10/05/2005 6:11:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Keep an open mind; nothing will fall out.)
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To: DMinus
as i said, i have a dog in this fight, but the best permanent solution would be for cogent to agree to a mroe equitable peering relationship and stop using other carrier's networks for a free ride, and then undercutting prices because they have no network infrastructure to pay for.

I have a dog in this fight too, but I would add that 1) Cogent is an industry bottom feeder, and 2) they've tried some less than friendly strong-arm tactics in the past. Mostly though, I think our network engineers would just be happy if this problem went away, as disinterested but affected network operators.

129 posted on 10/05/2005 6:45:29 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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