Posted on 10/05/2005 7:42:38 AM PDT by N3WBI3
Have you read the licenses yet?
False assumption. I'm not afraid to answer it. Microsoft is not in a position to pass all costs to the consumer, their competitor is operating at a much lower price point.
When your competitor is free, you do not have pricing power.
You really believe you can hand out homework assignments and conduct interrogations, don't you? LOL
Do you DRESS like Napoleon too?
Ah, so you agree the Office 12 license is about the same as PDF. And you're missing the point if you think it's about O12 vs. ODF. It's about Taxachussetts using taxpayers money to pull an ABM move (which is illegal). So they gave PDF a waiver simply because it wasn't M$. And the claim was because their PDF license was good for them. So why isn't O12's license good enough as well? Because it's Microsoft.
Fantastic leap, and not true. I've not examined them, and you've offered no demonstration of your claim.
It's not ABM, though you're desperate to continue that lie. All Microsoft needs to do is implement ODF.
Well duh, once again just good opsec. Plus having a simple hash like the one I used or shadow is stupid because as soon as it falls into the wrong hands it's cracked. I'm not saying obscurity is the only tenant of security, but it is one of them. Whereas you claim it isn't needed at all. I guess that's what we are debating.
BTW: What would really help here is for you to answer my question...Do you agree a that one of the properties of a hash has The quality or condition of being imperfectly known or difficult to understand?
Not true. M$ doesn't have to...a state agency that wants to buy M$ can also buy, develop, or implement a plug-in or converter to do that for them.
Or they can buy M$ for pdf creation.
Helluva way to treat a customer. ROFL
What are you smaking crack again? Last time I used Oracle, I didn't get "FREE" Oracle services to design my database around my requirements. Or when I used Red Hat, they didn't pre-install it on my computer (as I required them to do). Yeah, they are all awful vendors. A pox on all their houses. They should give me everything I want for free. And when they give it to me I should be free to do whatever I please with it.
Have you actually ever used it? And deployed it to over 1,000 seats? LOL!
I have never smoked or smaked crack. The customer is considering you, or a much-lower-priced competitor, and tells you it wants ODF implemented.
You then have a choice: implement it at no additional cost, or lose your customer.
[cue Jeopardy theme]
Yes. Works great.
And deployed it to over 1,000 seats? LOL!
Gotta be less unpleasant than Bill Gates hand in my pocket. If Massachusetts decides to go that way, they will have done their TCO analysis and made their choice. All that will be left for Microsoft is analyzing the game films to find out what went wrong.
Ah the truth comes out! You just hate M$ and you're willing to let taxpayers fund your crusade against them.
What is a liberal state gov't wasting taxpayers money to get revenge on a company they don't like?
Another Fantastic Leap! You're quite the gymnast.
It's about reducing cost to taxpayers. Microsoft can choose to compete or it can withdraw.
I don't know what word games you're trying to play, but I've already told you what a hash is -- a digest. Hash, cipher and code may seem similar to laymen, but they are completely different concepts in cryptography.
I'll go out on a limb and give you guys the benefit of the doubt that we were having definition problems. True, the end purpose of encryption is obscurity of the data. But obscurity itself has no business in the process of achieving that end goal.
Silly non-sequitur question.
You go in circles. All Microsoft has to do to thwart that dastardly scheme is implement ODF.
Uh maybe they did it because in order to have people use the standard they have to know the standard, duh. You can't hide something you are giving away.
I agree.
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