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To: narby
To believe that everything came from nothing, that non life gave way to life, requires much more faith than to believe that In the beginning God created everything in six 24 hour days. So, by default evolution is a religion since it requires blind, unprovable, unscientific faith.

We, who are Born Again Washed in the Blood of the lamb Christians, who believe that God tells us the truth via His Bible, even have a picture of what eternity is and what it is like thru Genesis 1-11. Why is it so ignored by non Christians and liberal Christians? Why do so many refuse to read it, learn from it, take it literally and obey it?

I think the answer to that is simple. We are afraid. We are afraid of being called bumpkins, fools, stupid, and other such names, for the intellectual knows that God created nothing, that we all came from nothing, nothing that somehow became something.

Then that nothing that became something all came together in a spot smaller than the a period on this page, and that period was spinning and spinning and spinning like millions and millions of miles an hour, and suddenly BANG, it exploded and then over millions and millions of years a rock developed and some acid rain fell on it and out of that mess of rock and acid rain came a lizard and from that lizard came a monkey and from that monkey came man and from that rock came a dinosaur and from a dinosaur came a gold finch. And they call us nuts? And you are afraid of them calling us nuts?

Your turn.

550 posted on 10/06/2005 4:52:15 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer; Ichneumon; narby; Junior

why are you making the false statement that cosmology (the Big Bang theory) and abiogenesis (the development of self-replicating living things from non-living chemical components) are integral parts of the Theory of the Origin of Species (through mutation and selection) aka "the ToE"?

Why do you falsely state that the ToE holds high-taxa saltation to be necessary (even possible... a hint: such saltation is ruled out by the ToE)?

strawman/non-sequitur/high-taxa-saltation/psychological projection/bearing-false-witness/"it's too early for this crap" placemarker


551 posted on 10/06/2005 4:58:24 AM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: newsgatherer

"To believe that everything came from nothing, that non life gave way to life, requires much more faith than to believe that In the beginning God created everything in six 24 hour days. So, by default evolution is a religion since it requires blind, unprovable, unscientific faith."

Luckily, Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of matter.

"And they call us nuts? "

:)


555 posted on 10/06/2005 5:20:10 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: newsgatherer
"Nuts!"

Just to answer your last question.


"To believe that everything came from nothing, that non life gave way to life, requires much more faith..."

Is see my kid growing but I don't feed him living food. So it is possible that non life converts to life.

"... requires much more faith than to believe that In the beginning God created everything in six 24 hour days."

Very less I believe in this version of a "six 24 hour days"creation. I never read anything in the bible saying a day has 24 hours. By the way, on which 'day' your creator (yes I'm a Christian but I won't vulgarize my god as a workman) set up the sun to the sky?

"So, by default evolution is a religion since it requires blind, unprovable, unscientific faith."

Great logic! But wait. Who uncovered the fraud over the piltdown man? Cancel blind faith. So it was provable that it was a fake? Cancel unprovable. Faith is always as unscientific as to claim something without any clues. Replace "evolution" with "ID" or "creation". Blind faith. Yes, look in your mirror. Unprovable faith, 6 days - 24 hours.

"Why do so many refuse to read it, learn from it, take it literally and obey it?"

That is the whole thing is about. YOU claim to know that The Lord meant it to be taken literally. That is sheer Superbia!

Possible scene in front of heavens gate:
Lord: "Pardon?"
newsgatherer: "Please, let me in! I took your word literally!"
Lord: "Did I say so to you?"
newsgatherer: "I told everybody to do so!"
Lord: "Next door downstairs. You need some hot time to think it over. Mind the gaps!"
561 posted on 10/06/2005 6:29:30 AM PDT by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: newsgatherer
To believe that ... non life gave way to life, requires much more faith ...

God creates hurricanes "from nothing". God makes the rain fall "from nothing". God makes the water magically "flow down to the ocean".

Of course we also have scientific explanations for those things, but did not God "create" them?

All this is a matter of semantics. The evidence God left us in His creation gives ample evidence that a tool scientists call "evolution" created the various species. You call the tool "creation". There's really no difference, except the unfortunate "days" text in Genesis that has confused you.

If you believe that God gave you the Bible, and also created the world around us, then by definition the two cannot conflict. The evidence God left, a lot of evidence by the way, tells us that the universe and the earth is many billions of years old. Since Gods creation and Gods word cannot conflict, then your interpretation of Genesis must be the problem.

573 posted on 10/06/2005 9:28:13 AM PDT by narby
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