Posted on 10/05/2005 1:55:23 AM PDT by rdb3
Sike!
Anyway, far-Right, meet far-Left. And to think that they call me crazy for saying this.
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If you're not with us, you're against us Rockwell et.al.
A coalition of 62+ million and growing.
This man is obviously an idiot and his with his world view he will never go further than being watched by a few other looneys.
Maybe. There was a time here when Rockwell was widely respected by some FReepers.
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The Rockwellians joined the enemy a long time ago. The Rockwelians, Buchananites, paleocons, et al, all aligned themselves with France/Germany/Russia and Iraq against America when we went to war against Saddam Hussein. No surprise to me that they'd join in with the America hating Communist backed International ANSWER and the PinkOs. Traitors all.
It's no secret that I can't stand paleos, be they paleocons or paleolibertarians.
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Maybe. There was a time here when Rockwell was widely respected by some FReepers.
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Garbage. He has always been in the tinfoil hat camp. But I agree, his followers and website writers were around to promote the site and its articles. But they were few and far between.
It is like saying that posts from du are "widely respected by some FReepers". If some means the poster, then it is a dumb statement.
It's not "garbage." The main people who talked up Rockwell's site were the same ones who viewed Raimondo with respect. I remember that very well.
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That reminds me of what my pastor once said in a warning. He said don't be so heavenly minded that you're no earthly good.
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I'm all for limited government and many of the things the Libertarians stand for. Just remember the paranoid person has enemies too.
"It's no secret that I can't stand paleos, be they paleocons or paleolibertarians".
I thought I was alone (here on FR) in this line of thinking! Thanks!!!
LLS
I do recall blips over the past 12 years when Lew's columns were educational. The problem I've always had with the Libertarian platform is that so much of what is "great on paper" is simply not realistic in practice. When something is not realistic in practice, it goes into the category of John O'Sullivan's great maxim: Anything not intrinsically right-leaning will inevitably list leftward.
Another inherent problem with Libertarianism, as I see it? "Self-centeredness". There's no concern for others, or in living civilly amid a community. It is inherently, a "what I want" philosophy which undergirds the Libertarian platform.
Libertarianism *can* work but only if ABSOLUTELY everyone adheres to the tenets of Libertarianism. What does this spell? The flipside of potential tyranny.
Socialism, OTOH, also follows the same marks of Libertarianism but with difference -- in Libertarianism, individuals must pull their "own" weight; In Socialism, there has to be a worker/provider class and then the receipients or beneficiaries of the worker/provider class.
IOW, the shortform translation:
Libertarianism: The Kingdom of Self
Socialism: The Kingdom of the Collective "Self".
I too remember those days and you are correct it isn't "garbage" that more than a few supported Rockwell and Justin RaimondoCano.
Thank you. I knew it wasn't "garbage" because I was here when I read their nonsense.
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I haven't compared libertarianism and socialism. I'll look into that.
But my philosophy about libertarianism is that it, too, is a philosophy and can in no way be a self-sustaining political movement.
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Long-term? Libertarianism very much can lead to anarchy, taken the philosophy to its longer-term logistical endpoint. Why? At the center is "self". So, next door to you lives another "self", and this self has bigger guns than you do, and wants to make you subsurvient to "his" "self". In the Libertarian perspective, there are no intervenors, no laws, except that every person is responsible for the freedoms, wants and wishes of "themselves".
Which is why everytime I read another "evil Republicans with their BIG GUNS" invading countries.. I can only shake my head at their delusions. For this is exactly what Libertarian philosophy would posit -- to get bigger guns to defend one's self, property, family.
But, most Libertarians refuse to discuss the logistical endpoint sum of "libertarianism". No. They wish to stay stuck on the "laissez-faire" line. I like the "laissez-faire" line to a point.
I admit it. You got me.
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