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No terror ties found so far in bomb case (Norman bombing)
NewsOK.com ^ | October 5, 2005 | Nolan Clay and Randy Ellis

Posted on 10/04/2005 11:29:02 PM PDT by indcons

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To: de Buillion

lol..PC..but both would be better.How bout the PC/DC BUREAUCRATS! Has a ring to it, wouldn't you say?


21 posted on 10/05/2005 12:06:44 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: El Gato; PhiKapMom

Don't know...pinging PKM.....she was there at the game and entered through gate 7!!!!! She may be able to answer this question.


22 posted on 10/05/2005 12:09:47 AM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)
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To: penelopesire

I agree- I am not really very confident that our FBI is all aboard with our War on Terror. Seems like they are still playing CYA games, but just maybe, hopefully, they are being silent for our benefit......?????


23 posted on 10/05/2005 12:12:24 AM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: garandgal

Since this is Jim's forum, I am compelled to adhere to a specific level of decorum. This does not restrict me from stating that I am painfully cognizant of a rather large group of nonaligned individuals that have an express intent of making hajji's go away, or face terrestial extinction.


24 posted on 10/05/2005 12:14:57 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: indcons

Thanks! That's great. I already had Cheema on my list, but didn't know it was the right one!

I had been wondering if he was part of another family of Cheemas at school in Norman who are from Tulsa, or if he was possibly the "Faisal" Cheema from Urbana, IL, which is where Joel III's sister Berkeley lives.


25 posted on 10/05/2005 12:16:51 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Great research, RTE66......great stuff indeed.


26 posted on 10/05/2005 12:18:33 AM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)
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To: indcons
The FBI has found no evidence so far that a University of Oklahoma student who died in a bombing Saturday night tried to get inside the football stadium or had ties to any terrorist organization, officials said Tuesday.

I didn't know that Bagdad Bob was now a Special Agent.

27 posted on 10/05/2005 12:18:34 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

LOL.....You owe me a new keyboard now; just spat coke all ovre it from the laughter :)


28 posted on 10/05/2005 12:20:19 AM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)
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To: LibertyRocks

We also had a SoonerFan forum person post that they had seen a "young man" in handcuffs near the stadium when the poster left 3 minutes before halftime to go to his campus office. There were three cops with the "young man" who was handcuffed and they were pretty gruff with the Soonerfan, sort of saying to "move on." He just thought the guy (who was on the ground) was a drunk. Bet it was one of the guys from the party.


29 posted on 10/05/2005 12:21:34 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: de Buillion

"I agree- I am not really very confident that our FBI is all aboard with our War on Terror. Seems like they are still playing CYA games, but just maybe, hopefully, they are being silent for our benefit......?????"

Look...I am a pro military, pro CIA, pro FBI, pro Police kinda gal, but I remember the days when they had press conferences after bad stuff happened and they didn't all sound like a bunch of total fools(except during waco). It does not inspire confidence at this point. I don't know what I am more pissed off at..their lack of respect for the American people's ability to 'comprehend' and decipher this whole thing..or their BS spin on it. They must think the American people are stuck on stupid..or is it that THEY ARE STUCK ON STUPID? At this point I want to be the first one on Freepers to ask General HONORE to run for President in 2008 on the Republican ticket.


30 posted on 10/05/2005 12:23:33 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: PhiKapMom
In my novel a distant (non-suicidal) sniper causes a panic stampede in a packed stadium. A bomb or bombs inside a stadium would be even more effective at triggering a stampede. This is how I described the panic and its effects.

The rest of the 80,000 fans saw the ghastly open wound and his blood-covered wife on the fifty foot tall video screens, and the panic began to spread from one end of the stadium to the other. Police radios crackled with reports of death and injury, police marksmen dashed out and scanned the stadium’s upper tiers and light towers through their binoculars and rifle scopes. The sudden appearance of black-clad police marksmen with their rifles shouldered was noticed by mystified fans throughout the stadium, adding depth to the rippling fear.

Complete pandemonium erupted through the western upper deck as the realization spread like a wind-whipped forest fire that an unseen sniper had them all in his deadly crosshair gaze. Six thousand adrenaline glands pumped out their ultimate fight-or-flight hormone. Unthinking mob psychology seized the crowd, and nearly all of the fans who were penned up in the killing zone stampeded down the steps and over the chairs. This fear-driven horde charged straight over the smaller and slower fans in their desperation to reach the perceived safety of one of the four exit tunnels.

It had taken well over an hour before the game for six thousand cheerful individuals to fill all of the seats on the steeply sloping upper deck. Many of the fans routinely grew dizzy and flirted dangerously with vertigo while climbing the concrete stairs, which were as high and as steeply pitched as the roof of a cathedral. Now, gripped by primal terror and racing down to the exits, the thousands of fans attempted to do the impossible, they all attempted to escape the unrelenting rain of bullets in less than a single minute.

Police, paramedics, security personnel and the just plain curious were beginning to rush from the stadium’s inside concourse through the tunnels to the stands when they ran headlong into the leading elements of the outpouring human tide. This slowed them enough to precipitate immediate jams at each of the four exits. But the terror of the fleeing mobs in the stands above the exit tunnels did not abate as the bullets continued to fall, and the crush began in earnest.

A hundred tightly pressed bodies, propelled by fear and assisted by gravity, pushed hard against each unlucky person already wedged against the safety railing at the bottom of the upper deck. The rails bent outward as the human avalanche gathered momentum, and then they buckled and victims began to tumble over. The falling victims were still holding tightly onto those above, pulling them over as well, and the solid cascade began. Dozens and then hundreds of linked victims fell past the VIP sky boxes, thudding down onto the unfortunate fans packed into the lower stands ninety feet below.

31 posted on 10/05/2005 12:24:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: penelopesire

Story is getting more coverage now......at least we have more info now. The next couple of days will be really interesting based on what else comes out.


32 posted on 10/05/2005 12:25:00 AM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)
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To: penelopesire
Our masters believe (Jack Nicholson voice over)

"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

33 posted on 10/05/2005 12:27:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Rte66

Jihad Joey's sister is named BERKELEY?

Are you kidding?


34 posted on 10/05/2005 12:30:04 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: El Gato

They renumbered the gates when they did the addition. We used to go in gate 23 but now we go in Gate 7 which is on the NE corner of the stadium and one of the emergency exits. I am assuming that Gate 6 is on the north end zone. He blew up on a bench on the oval which would be a couple hundred yards from that gate maybe a little more.

There is usually a lot of people in that area even the game so him taking off wouldn't be that noticed -- probably figured he was late for something.


35 posted on 10/05/2005 12:32:55 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: little jeremiah

Nope, it's true. She's a foreign language interpreter. So far, all I've seen is Spanish, but that might not be all.


36 posted on 10/05/2005 12:36:58 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: indcons

"Story is getting more coverage now......at least we have more info now. The next couple of days will be really interesting based on what else comes out."

Your right..i need to calm down..lol. The Freepers have been the 'belle of the balls'(pardon the pun) on this story. I love this place and it's people!! Told Jim he is getting a nice fat check when bean time rolls around sometime in November. Sadly,the hurricanes might put a dent in it, but Freepers will get my money before any anyone 'else' that knocks on my bank account door at regular intervals, if u know what i mean. Keep up the good work indcons.


37 posted on 10/05/2005 12:37:02 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire
Your right..i need to calm down..lol.

Oh...I didn't mean that at all. I was just expressing my satisfaction that we are getting more info now. The LSM is interestingly pursuing this story now after ignoring it for the first 3 days!!!
38 posted on 10/05/2005 12:39:37 AM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list.)
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To: indcons
And so it was Cheema who attended the mosque that had been Moussaoui's, not JoelIII. That makes more sense now.
39 posted on 10/05/2005 12:41:06 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: indcons

http://search.ou.edu/default.cfm?CFID=786681&CFTOKEN=24897810



Fazal M. Cheema fazalcheema at OU dot edu


Student Info
Senior
price college of business

Campus Office
Athletic Department
Student Employee
OMS


40 posted on 10/05/2005 12:43:17 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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