Cardinal backs evolution and "intelligent design"

Reuters - Science ^ | 2005-10-04

[Ditto]

Do you believe the Holy Spirit inspired the authors of all of the Books listed below?

He revealed to them what they could understand in terms they could understand.

When your 3 year old child asks where babies come from, how do you explain it to her?

[shuckmaster]

You don't falsely malign a fellow Freeper and expect to get away without being challenged.

Who are the pigs you were referring to in your previous post?

[BikerNYC]

You advise people to avoid flame wars but then you call the opposition pigs. A classic do as i say not as I do moment.

[BikerNYC]

ModernMan made a suggestion that FReeper scripter was a bit obsessed with homosexual issues, and asked if he had a financial interest in curing or reforming homosexuals.

Did scripter ever respond?

[Stultis]

When an interpretation of Scripture defies reality, it is the interpretation of Scripture that is at fault.

When an interpretation of the data defies God's revealed Word, it is the interpretation of the data that is at fault.

So obviously it is faulty interpretation of the data -- in this case of geography -- were we to suggest that the Apostle Paul was incorrect in claiming that the gospel had been preached throughout the whole world, as he did for instance in Colossians 1:6 and 23; Romans 1:8, 10:18 and 16:19?

I just need some clarification... Should we conclude that the populations of the Americas, Australia, The Pacific Islands, Southeast Asia, Far-East Asia, etc, never really existed at all, or where they and their cultures created ex nihilo sometime after the 1st Century?

Or is it just possible that we might sometimes have to look beyond the plain meaning of scripture because it conflicts with merely secular human discovery? I know it's possibly an earth-shattering concession for you to make, but whadaya think?

[Right Wing Professor]

Did scripter ever respond?

No. He, AFAIK, had little to do with the banning. Little jeremiah posted a gloating followup when the deed was done.

[Oztrich Boy]

Tragic or comic?

Why not archaic?

[ml1954]

The Catholic Church has wised up since Galileo. They usually know enough to stay away from established science and don't challenge it. Why bother fighting loosing battles?

And there are always enough unknowns to work with. And they can always argue about the ethics of the sometimes controversial use of some scientific knowledge.

[ml1954]

but don't roll in the dirt with the pigs; you get dirty, but the pig likes it.

Oink, oink.

[editor-surveyor]

""They were so to speak let free into their own existence," he said."

A Cardinal, eh? - God said "after their own kind" and now this cardinal thinks he has the authority to overrule God?

Why doesn't he just admit that he's an atheist? He shames the church with his mindless mutterings.

[Coyoteman]

Could you say that the Peking Man fossils represent the "missing" link?

(If that's too obscure--they were lost in transit in 1941 and haven't been seen since.)

[Junior]

In Memoriam.
Fallen CrevoSci Warriors:

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[bondserv]

He revealed to them what they could understand in terms they could understand.

When your 3 year old child asks where babies come from, how do you explain it to her?

Are you implying that God intentionally misrepresented the truth throughout Scripture because we were not capable of grasping it?

[Junior]

Interpretation of data can only properly take place within the context of other data. That is what a theory does in science. You can interpret individual data points any old way you want (which is why creationists like taking evidence out of context), but when it is interpreted in relation to other evidence, patterns emerge. The Theory of Evolution is one such pattern.

Your interpretation of Scripture might be consistent with any individual piece of evidence, but it is wildly at variance with the evidence as a whole.

[flevit]

perhaps it is mans interpretation of the natural world that is incorrect

[Matchett-PI]

"The Catholic Church has wised up since Galileo. They usually know enough to stay away from established science and don't challenge it."

Sorry - but the conflict was between Copernican science and Aristotelian science which had become Church tradition.

Galileo wrote: "I think in the first place that it is very pious to say and prudent to affirm that the Holy Bible can never speak untruth -- whenever its true meaning is understood." He cited Copernicus in the same vein: "He [Copernicus] did not ignore the Bible, but he knew very well that if his doctrine were proved, then it could not contradict the Scripture when they were rightly understood"

[blowfish]

Are you implying that God intentionally misrepresented the truth throughout Scripture because we were not capable of grasping it?

The bible is not a credible science book. Have you ever seen the sun stop in it's tracks for a day? Or are we throwing out conservation of angular momentum as well?

[ml1954]

Maybe the DIM/PC/Postmodern Deconstructionist strategy of delving into dead peoples' notebooks of random musings, speculations, and thoughts and using them to discredit what people stood for when they were alive has cross pollinated.

[Matchett-PI]

"Evolution does not speak ..."

The evolution of makeup speaks loudly:

[ml1954]

Are you trying to refute something I wrote?