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Bush Recoils from Greatness
Townhall.com ^ | October 3, 2005 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 10/04/2005 8:08:33 AM PDT by HonestConservative

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To: HonestConservative
Holy Crap.

For the first time in my life: Pat Buchanan speaks for me.

I cannot see how any conservative could dispute this argument from Buchanan, even if it comes from him.
61 posted on 10/04/2005 9:12:24 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: HonestConservative

But her qualifications for the Supreme Court are nonexistent.



Ol' Pattie boy ought to know about being not qualified for a job. Hasn't the voters rejected him for all his attempts at being elected. You know where the rubber meets the road and you are held responsible. Ol' Pattie boy isn't nothing more than a talker with no responsibility to anyone other than what sister Bay tells him to do and how high to jump. jmo of course, yours may differ.


62 posted on 10/04/2005 9:12:30 AM PDT by deport
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To: Sweetjustusnow
If it means that Meirs or any other judicial nominee will uphold the Constitution, then Meirs IS "ultra-conservative".

And you know this how? She hasn't published anything to suggest that she is an originalist.

63 posted on 10/04/2005 9:13:03 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I cannot see how any conservative could dispute this argument from Buchanan, even if it comes from him.

W is a conservative. We trust W. W says she is a good pick. Therefore she is a good pick. That is the basic idea anyway.

64 posted on 10/04/2005 9:14:04 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: libertarianPA

It is just this attitude which has brought us here today with a clearly divided party all staking out postions in a grab for power and influence. We Conservatives have gained much ground, not everything we wanted to be sure, but much more than could have been expected with the narrow 2000 victory which was only won with some degree of moderate support. Less than 2 years ago we had a closer win than I expected with another liberal, lying-traitor opponent. Throwing your vote out there only emboldens the RINOS seeking support for who knows what policies. Have we forgotten the 7+ defectors who played into the RATS hands on filabuster issue? They must be salavating at the potential of libertarian defections. If we do not ride the Republican train to educate the populace on conservative issues, we will never win the victory on immigration or government spending in my lifetime. I AM SURE OF THIS....


65 posted on 10/04/2005 9:14:10 AM PDT by innocent man ((go ahead...PROVE ME GUILTY!))
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To: Rodney King
I believe that Bush is a Conservative.

I no longer believe that promoting the Conservative agenda is a high priority for him. If he proves me wrong, I will say so. I hope for the best, but my faith is damaged.
66 posted on 10/04/2005 9:15:52 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: meandog
my only question is who is blame this time as Warren Rudman is out of office?


Maybe you should blame the voters as they rejected your boy oh how many times.
67 posted on 10/04/2005 9:16:01 AM PDT by deport
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To: innocent man

The way to teach the populace about conservative constitutional values, is not to be submissive to the left.

When Bush gave his speech after Katrina and CONCEDED that the reason that the poor of New Orleans were in that predicament was because of RACISM... that was the beginning of the end for me.

Now that he's picked a nominee that HARRY REID was pushing for the first time around fills me with no confidence whatsoever.

There's still time before the '06 election. The Repbulicans still have time to show me that they'll stick to their guns instead of squandering their opportunities.


68 posted on 10/04/2005 9:19:00 AM PDT by libertarianPA
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To: Javelina
Then what happened to the whole, "I have political capital - I'm going to use it," thing?

Not much political capital there after his performance for the last six months.

69 posted on 10/04/2005 9:19:28 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: HonestConservative
"Bush capitulated to the diversity-mongers, used a critical Supreme Court seat to reward a crony ....."

"This is not to disparage Harriet Miers. From all accounts, she is a gracious lady who has spent decades in the law, and served ably as Bush's lawyer in Texas and, for a year, as White House counsel. "

Pat Pat Pat Pat .... stop whinning. Pat devides conservatives more than any other conservative I know of. If he could mount a better Presidental campain, he would have run in 2004, split the conservative vote, and he would be B$&ching about President Kerry's (God Forbid) Supreme Court Pick.

70 posted on 10/04/2005 9:19:37 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Rodney King

Aren't you using the same tactics and litmus test of the Dems?

President Bush's philosophy on the judiciary should be well known by now. I believe him when he says she has the same philosophy that he has and will not change that philosophy. If you can give me any reason that I should believe that he has changed his philosophy please do so.


71 posted on 10/04/2005 9:21:17 AM PDT by Sweetjustusnow ("Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty." John Adams)
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To: HonestConservative
But her qualifications for the Supreme Court are nonexistent.

Actually Pat, she has ONE qualification.

The guy that wants her on the Court, actually got ELECTED to serve in the White House.

72 posted on 10/04/2005 9:22:31 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Sweetjustusnow
If you can give me any reason that I should believe that he has changed his philosophy please do so.

Well, Meirs might turn out to be a great pick. We don't know. What we do know is the following:

1. Luttig, Alito, McConnel, all would have been great picks.

2. People in all areas of society, government, corporate, etc. often use bad judgement when dealing with the hiring, firing, and promotion of friends. That is why in most parts of society it is considered a no-no to promote personal friends.

73 posted on 10/04/2005 9:25:36 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: HonestConservative
"By posting a writing by P.B. I am hardly endorsing him for King of anything or representative of anything"
Excellent point. I have noticed that some people are busy attacking the messenger rather than reading and responding to the message.

Typical political response applied from both sides of the aisle.

Too many Republicans and to few conservatives, one being a political party that requires strict obedience and the other being a lifestyle that requires adherence to principals.

74 posted on 10/04/2005 9:27:57 AM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: Rodney King
"W is a conservative. We trust W. W says she is a good pick. Therefore she is a good pick. That is the basic idea anyway."
The kool aid has been delivered.

Drink up Bush bots.

75 posted on 10/04/2005 9:38:02 AM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: libertarianPA
"Reshaping the Supreme Court is an issue that unites Republicans and conservatives."

This is where pat is wrong. The abortion issue emphatically does not unite R's and conservatives. In fact, the interests of the party and getting and keeping power are directly opposed to the interests of the conservatives.

The folks running the Republican party secretly love the current situation with Roe v. Wade. They cannot change Roe but they can SAY they want to change it and regularly pass bills that they know the courts will strike down. As long as this persists, the conservatives dutifully turn out to walk precincts and man phone lines in the hopes of getting a good supreme court.

Controlling the conservatives in this manner has been a key element of holding together the R coalition. (The coalition will not hold together if the conservatives get their way on abortion because the RINO's will bolt--so one side has to lose the abortion issue to keep the R's together and that is the conservatives.)

In any event, Roe keeps the conservatives in the coalition and it keeps the phones manned; but the R's don't actually have to do anything about abortion because the Supreme Court controls the process.

If Roe were overturned, a lot of that juice is gone and the coalition shatters. The one issue voters change from allies of the R's to folks who actually want real anti-abortion laws passed in real state legislatures. Suddenly, the R's who have been posturing all these years will have to put their money where their mouth is or lose conservative support. But if they garner the conservative support, a lot of RINOs will bolt to the rats.

R's in high places know this. So is it any suprise that, even though R's have appointed 7 of the 9 justices on the Court, Roe v. Wade still stands?

76 posted on 10/04/2005 9:38:46 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Javelina

"Then what happened to the whole, "I have political capital - I'm going to use it," thing?"

I'd love to know the answer to that question.

I don't understand how a President can fight so hard for freedom overseas and roll over when it's threatened at home. He's afraid of a confrontation for some reason, and that's very disappointing.


77 posted on 10/04/2005 9:41:18 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ModelBreaker
""The abortion issue emphatically does not unite R's and conservatives. In fact, the interests of the party and getting and keeping power are directly opposed to the interests of the conservatives."
Your post is right on. If more people understood this concept we would have a legitimate third party.
78 posted on 10/04/2005 9:44:31 AM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: HonestConservative
Great column. Basically, Bush refuses to fight for known conservatives. Another question mark. Will she be another O'conner or a Thomas or a Souter.

Who knows?

If she turns out to be another O'conner you will have a Republican collapse in 2008.

We've (social conservatives) have been had for suckers for 30 Years. We're promised Scalia's and we get Souter/O'Conner/Blackmun/Kennedy. The country club types are ongoing to have to understand that average don't care about tax cuts. They wrote republican because of social issues. IF you won't support them - they wont support you.
79 posted on 10/04/2005 9:44:48 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: HonestConservative
Like many other conservatives, I, too, am less than enthralled with the President's pick, not because of Miers' qualifications, but because of the impression it has left. The President has at least given the appearance of all but capitulation to the Senate Democrats and RINOs. At least the nomination of Roberts to the Court, and later to be Chief Justice, seemed to put the liberals off their game. Now, however, the President gives the impression he has been put off his.

Republicans have put much time and energy subsequent to the Nixon era in recapturing control of the federal government. We gave President Bush a pass in his first term due to Jumpin' Jim Jeffords cowardly defection. But conservatives stood by their President and gave him a decisive majority in Congress.

Then the wheels started to come off. Admittedly, President Bush received little if any help from Republican Senators who appeared to lack the spine necessary to confront the Democrats and their parliamentary trickery. Nevertheless, the President seemed reluctant to himself confront Democrats on behalf of his own nominees, and unable to reel in such rebels as McCain.

Despite all appearances, there could be some logic to the President's choice. Having secured justices such as Priscilla Owen on the appellate level, the President may be wanting to preclude not only a Senate floor fight regarding a Supreme Court nominee from this group, but also a contentious fight for a replacement in the appeals court, which history has already proven too ephemeral for public attention and too easily filibustered.

Yet even this explanation still strikes me as a response of fear and capitulation rather than grand strategy. On the whole, President Bush appears to be running from an issue for which he was elected. This does not bode well for the future of Republican control, as many disaffected voters will no longer be swayed by the fear of the Democrats regaining majorities. Instead, they will be looking for candidates who will push the conservative agenda without hesitation, demanding unequivocal statements when campaigning and unequivocal action once elected. But perhaps another season out of power is just what Congressional Republicans need to remind them who they actually represent.

80 posted on 10/04/2005 9:59:16 AM PDT by krazyrep (Demolib Playbook Rule #1: Never admit your mistakes. If caught, blame them on Republicans.)
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