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Don't misunderestimate Miers
The American Thinker ^ | 9-4-05 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:34:23 AM PDT by veronica

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To: LS
Exodus Ministries, which is a ministry designed to help people get out of the homosexual lifestyle---definitely NOT a lib position.

This was debunked yesterday. You are thinking of Exodus International. Exodus Ministries deals with homelessness, still a worthy goal.

61 posted on 10/04/2005 8:28:16 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("One might even go so far as to say ... he's mediocre." - Daffy Duck)
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To: johnny7

She probably uses them all the time to help her with the donuts.


62 posted on 10/04/2005 8:30:46 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ConservativeDude

"Where were the geniuses on campaign finance? On prescription drugs - which if not repealed will bankrupt the country? On saying that institutional racism hurt the victims in New Orleans? On border issues? On the "assault weapons" ban?"

You're not supposed to notice those things. Whenever Bush does something against standard coservative philosophy, you're supposed to atrribute it to some brilliant strategy that we mere mortals cannot yet understand.

I mean, after all, hasn't it been gworking great so far?


63 posted on 10/04/2005 8:33:15 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: LS
Well, if she's pro life, she could say 'The constitution is pro life, and so am I'.

Unlike the Democrats, we play games about our beliefs. Incidentally, the article is wimpy, and should make conservative ashamed as to what they are.

That she will be difficult to demonize by the 'nags' is an especially galling reason.

64 posted on 10/04/2005 8:35:29 AM PDT by duckln
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To: jwalburg

>She will be influential because she will "fetch beverages"?<

The greatest leader the world has ever known was effective because he chose to wash the feet of his followers."Servant
Leadership" is the most effective and long lasting of all the leadership models.


65 posted on 10/04/2005 8:37:54 AM PDT by Blessed
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To: elfman2

"(I’ve never seen Bill Crystal make such an fool of himself.)"

Actually, about 50% of his rants are foolish. He never got over his infatuation with McLame.


66 posted on 10/04/2005 8:39:53 AM PDT by KingKongCobra (Trying to save the "Donner Party" from themselves.)
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To: veronica

excellent


67 posted on 10/04/2005 8:41:54 AM PDT by woofie (Trying hard to become another Buckhead)
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To: AmericaUnited
Because so much of it was factless, irrational foaming at the mouth

You evidently had no problem separating the gems from the garbage, and I suspect the same was true for many (most?) others.

68 posted on 10/04/2005 8:46:00 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Pessimist

You hit the nail on the head...that is why this administration has no enduring credibility with conservatives.

That doesn't mean, per se, that Miers is bad. It just means that everything they do is suspect. They gave us the finger before. How do we know they aren't giving us the finger now?

That is sort of what the author of the piece is trying to explain. I found it more persuasive than the usual diatribe of Bush bots which simply say "trust Bush and Rove." Yeah, right.

As already noted, even Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon got it right once in a while.

The job for conservatives is to keep the heat on...and pray that Miers turns out ok.


69 posted on 10/04/2005 8:46:04 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: veronica
The members of the Supreme Court all see themselves as serving the public and the law to the best of their abilities. Their self-regard depends on their belief in the righteousness and fairness of their deliberations. They must listen to the arguments of the other Justices. But their susceptibility to viewpoints they had not yet considered is matter of both an intellectual and emotional character. Open-mindedness uusally requires an unfreezing of deeply and emotionally-held convictions.

Oh yeah? McCain-Feingold. International Considerations. Employing stare decisis from lower Courts instead of using the Constitution AS their stare decisis as THE highest Court. I don't want someone who will use "established precedent" or their "feelings" when the Constitution spells it out in black and white for them.

Since there is no back trail on either of the Presidents picks, it may be a while before we have enough data to figure out if we have been blessed.... or screwed.

70 posted on 10/04/2005 8:50:50 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: elfman2
I’ve never seen Bill Crystal make such an fool of himself.

You haven't been paying attention then. He does it quite often.

Crystal is, I suppose, a "Conservative", but his first loyality is to his "home team" --- i.e. "inside the beltway people." W didn't pick a "homie" and that makes Bill sad, depressed and all of that crap. Miers sounds to be the anti-thesis of the typical beltwaty denizen, of both the left and right. She is not one of them.

71 posted on 10/04/2005 8:52:43 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Here's a question that I raised on another thread, which went unanswered (probably because of the time that I posted it) ...

Bush is great at thinking multiple steps ahead and playing chess while his opponants are playing checkers. Sure, he could have appointed and Owens or a Brown and "fought the good fight" and probably got the appointment through.

Instead he appoints an "unknown" (but to himself) who is getting a good amount of support from Democrats. But what happens if Miers turns out to be the evangelical Christian many think she is? What happens ... what happens to the Democratic Party ... if she wins the support of most Democratic Senators and then turns out to be the vote that overturns Roe?


72 posted on 10/04/2005 8:56:32 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: AmericaUnited

"Why? Because so much of it was factless, irrational foaming at the mouth, something we expect from du-dummies, not those who should lead the free world, I.E. intelligent conservatives."

It was a group tantrum.....they didn't get what they wanted so wah wah wah.....now, as it turns out, Miers may not be the demon they expected and they have been given a lollipop to suck on....not as much crying today.

Hopefully none of the tantrum freepers will ever run for office.

I wanted Brown et al too, cuz I, as another immature conservative who likes confrontation, wanted to fight the libs....but I am willing to give Miers the benefit of the doubt and she is looking better all the time.

Still....a fight would have been fun...wahhhhhhhhh :(


73 posted on 10/04/2005 8:56:49 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: veronica

It's a brilliant pick. An Evangelical christian who will sail through congress.


74 posted on 10/04/2005 8:57:45 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: HOYA97
"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him [i.e., your enemy]." Prov. 24:17-18
75 posted on 10/04/2005 8:59:20 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: RebelBanker

I saw the "lesbian" charge here on FR a few times. This place was no better than Kos and DU. Today is really no different.

The "drunk" charges against the President are being posted on the press conference live thread.


76 posted on 10/04/2005 9:02:40 AM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: HOYA97

Sorry, it wasn't Jesus---it was Paul, quoting Proverbs: Rom. 12:20 "Therefore 'If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.'" Paul also wrote "Bless those who persecute you." (Rom. 12:14, echoing Jesus in the "Sermon on the Mount").


77 posted on 10/04/2005 9:05:07 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: stinkerpot65
What many Conservatives fail to realize is that Scalia and Thomas are not great judges because of their constitutional knowledge.They are great judges because they understand the source of all rights and have a relationship with the "law giver".This is a characteristic that appears to be shared by Roberts and Meir.
78 posted on 10/04/2005 9:05:40 AM PDT by Blessed
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To: tanknetter

I have no idea what happens under that scenario.

But I think we are still one vote away, no? Assuming Roberts and Meiers vote to overturn, then that gives us 4. The other side has the 4 libs and Kennedy.

I suppose it's possible that GWB and Rove are two steps ahead. I just wish they would use this apparent "genius" of theirs more often.


79 posted on 10/04/2005 9:05:45 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: fizziwig

You're right. As I predicted, the critics will fall into line like good soldiers when the time comes. They always do. George had a blank check with them and he knows it.


80 posted on 10/04/2005 9:08:48 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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