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To: cva66snipe
In short you can not have justice nor freedom outside of the boundaries of The Bible and expect to survive as a nation. History shows as much.

I want judges who rule based on the constitution, not on the bible. For example, take the current case of Oregon's assisted suicide law. Based on the constitution, this isn't a federal matter and the correct ruling is that this is a state issue.

However, suicide is morally wrong and violates the teachings of the Bible.

So, while I personally oppose such a law, I can find nothing in the constitution that gives the federal government the authority to block the state of Oregon from enacting a doctor assisted suicide law. For the Supreme Court to rule that the Oregon law is unconstitutional would be a clear act of judicial activism. Our constitution was written to leave such issues to the states.

636 posted on 10/05/2005 7:51:47 AM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: va4me
Suicide is legally wrong in most states and assisted suicide is murder this has been the law of most every states ever since. I can think of no state that ever had it as being legal.

The legalization of assisted suicide is just what the ones who now have two thirds of our laws on all levels of government written for their loss prevention want. Tell me would you prefer to have the means to simply on your own free will swallow pills and end your life legal or not because it would not matter anyway, or would you instead prefer to open a Pandora's Box so that such thugs as your health insurance provider can decide your appointed time for you. Be very careful what you ask for.

Suicide has been around ever since has it not. Making it legal serves no purpose except to open the door for government to regulate it then life will be rationed by the government owned by the Insurance Companies and then GOD help us all.

That is where wise judges come in. Suicide for the preservation of life & liberty should not be made legal period assisted or otherwise. If someone wants to off them self they will do so. In the mean time it is of the up most importance to make certain government never gets to allow it.

Dd you know that actually it was never intended for man to even have judges as such? It was intended for man instead to do what was right in the eyes of GOD. Man demanded Judges to preside over their lives and the results have been a failure as they are open to corruption.

The founding fathers who signed the Constitution 52 of 55 were active church members. So did they intend for our government to be influenced by Judeo/Christian beliefs? All evidence points to yes. It is for example not a Constitutional requirement for a POTUS being sworn in to place his hand on the Bible. Yet Washington would not take such an oath without it. One POTUS refused taking oath on Sunday. Up till the 1980's there were laws in many states based on Biblical ideals that prohibited such things as most businesses open on Sunday.

When I left Virginia after active duty in late 1980 that law had still not been repealed. Those laws were based on the Bible and such laws have been law in many cases since ones like Jefferson, Washington, Madison, etc were POTUS. I can think of only one of the Ten Commandments that was never law. You shall have no other gods before me. The rest have been on the books since 1776. I can remember even when the taking of another mans wife was a criminal offense.

So then would a USSC Judge be right in upholding a prohibition on suicide? Yes. Why? Because it has been understood that the right to life is a right upon which this nation was built. Anyone can off them self of their own free will. Even the Lord won't stop you as in the case of Judas. Like it or not though the laws of this nation were in fact founded on the Bible and the laws there in as the guide.

The founders never intended to keep church out of government as they included their beliefs even into public office. They however would never allow government to take over the church which is what they feared most. Too bad our POTUS and many in congress are not as wise and wish to entangle the pulpit into such dangerous areas of church control as Faith Based government funded programs which the church should avoid at all cost and the FEDERAL government is prohibited from doing. If a state wishes to give a dollar to such that is another matter. The prohibition addresses congress only.

For some insight as to just what the founders believed in relation of their religious convictions to their elected office the book "The Light and the Glory" shows it well. The book is well researched and the public and private notes and letters of the founders are in that book. They never separated their Christian beliefs from their offices. No not even first Chief Justice John Jay. George Washington said, "You can't have national morality apart from religious principle,"

637 posted on 10/05/2005 9:39:36 AM PDT by cva66snipe
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