Posted on 10/03/2005 7:19:26 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
TALLAHASSEE -- Florida businesses could soon face criminal charges if they try to stop employees from bringing guns to work in their cars, thrusting the state into a growing national debate pitting individual freedom against job safety. Backed by the National Rifle Association, two state lawmakers have filed bills that would allow workers to have guns at work, as long as the weapons remain locked in their vehicles. The legislation is modeled after an Oklahoma law that drew national attention when a number of major companies, including energy giant ConocoPhillips and oil-services conglomerate Halliburton, sued to have it overturned. A Florida version could have similarly sweeping effects, particularly in Central Florida, where the region's largest employer -- Walt Disney World, with more than 57,000 workers -- does not allow its employees to bring guns onto park property. Universal Orlando, which employs 13,000 people, has a similar policy.
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It would have been better to write, "individual safety" against "job safety".
At present no job is safe nor are individuals.
My view is that the company can set the rules. If you don't like them, then quit.
Private property rights trump gun rights bump.
Or park on the street.
My view is that the company can set the rules. If you don't like them, then quit.
My view is that our constitution sets the rules. If you don't like them, then move elsewhere.
Parking on the street in front of most large companies while working, -- will get your car towed.
I have a CCW permit and can't carry if my itinerary takes me onto my company's property. It's a real pain if I have to make an unexpected stop because I have to either find someone to take custody of my weapon or drive 30 miles round trip to my home to drop the weapon off before going to work.
It's an arbitrary restriction that makes no sense. If someone is going to carry a gun into work and shoot employees, the stupid rule isn't going to stop them. All it does is prevent anyone else from having the means to defend ourselves.
Your problem.
So... strangers can peacably assemble on your front lawn, whether you want 'em to or not?
And as I pointed out to my horrified HR weenie, anybody who has the inclination to bring a gun into work and shoot the place up is probably also willing to violate the "no guns at work" policy.
Alas, this is how HR weenies justify their salaries, making up stupid, unenforceable "feelgood" rules that have no effect on the anticipated problem.
Job "safety" is not the concern here.Legal liability is the problem.Eventually it will work the other way, also, but not yet.
My front lawn is not a company parking lot.
> All it does is prevent anyone else from having the means to defend ourselves.
Well, in all truth, if I had my concealed carry gun stuck in my glove box and some nut started to shoot up the joint... I'd have to get out of here and to my car to get the gun. The gun in this case won't help me, as I will have already gotten to safety by the time I got to the gun. Not to say that I couldn't take the gun back in and maybe save somebody *else,* but I'd probably get sued by the nuts family if I did that...
> My front lawn is not a company parking lot.
Yes. It is *your* private property. Just as the parking lot is *their* private property. Your rights there are curtailed just as someone elses rights are curtailed on your lawn.
Good response.
But using your analogy, there is no constitutional right to own, drive (and park) a car, and you compare the two things as equivalent: owning and bearing a firearm and owning and parking a car.
Agreed.
Parking on the street in front of most large companies while working, -- will get your car towed.
Your problem.
No, supporting & defending our constitution is every citizens 'problem'.. - And duty.
So can hippies camp on your front lawn and protest? Can some Naked Wiccans practice their religion in your living room? How about a John Kerry for VP for Hilary rally in your back yard? How about Andrew Dice Clay practicing his Freedom Of Speech by telling the filthiest jokes imaginable in your childrens room?
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