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To: NittanyLion
When push came to shove, it's my opinion the votes would be there for someone like JRB, Owens, et al.

That's not what the gang of 14 indicated. Those 14 determine a filibuster override. And it includes 7 Dems. So you need a nominee that is acceptable to those 7 Dems in order to ensure that the rest of the Dems will not attempt a filibuster. And you also need to get Snowe and Collins on board as well.

2,284 posted on 10/03/2005 11:14:31 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy

No, a few of the Republican members of the gang have said that if the Dems filibustered a qualified choice they would go "nucular". I think at least one of those would have stuck by that promise, and Owens-Brown-Luttig-Insert real Conservative name here, WOULD be confirmed.


2,290 posted on 10/03/2005 11:17:35 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: dirtboy
That's not what the gang of 14 indicated. Those 14 determine a filibuster override. And it includes 7 Dems. So you need a nominee that is acceptable to those 7 Dems in order to ensure that the rest of the Dems will not attempt a filibuster. And you also need to get Snowe and Collins on board as well.

I disagree. I think we could've pried the necessary GOP votes out of that group to vote in favor of a qualified candidate such as Brown or Owens. If a couple chose to defect and join the Dems, so be it. If the Dems decided to filibuster, then let them be seen to obstruct the nomination of someone like JRB - it only helps the GOP and ultimately we could've changed the Senate rules anyway.

2,294 posted on 10/03/2005 11:18:49 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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