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Dont go on about pushing India: Media to US lawmakers
HT.com ^ | Washington, October 2, 2005 | PTI

Posted on 10/03/2005 2:21:01 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick

India's vote in favour of the IAEA resolution on Iran nuclear programme was an "encouraging and significant" step which indicated the evolving nature of US-India relationship, a leading US daily on Sunday said, while warning some American officials and lawmakers against creating the appearance of having pressurised New Delhi for its stance.

Asking legislators like Congressman Tom Lantos not to "brag" about 'pushing' India and advising American officials to avoid the crude appearance of a quid pro quo of Indian vote for access to US civilian nuclear technology, The Washington Times said India had surprised even the most vigilant observers when it sided with the US and the EU on the issue.

"India's position at the IAEA regarding Iran is encouraging and significant, illustrating that concerns over Iran's programme do not emanate from Washington and Europe alone," it said in an editorial, adding, "The move also indicates that the young US-Indian friendship is evolving."

US officials, it advised, should publicly avoid the appearance of a crude quid pro quo. "If the Indian Government is seen by its citizens as doing the bidding of the Bush Administration, it will suffer politically and may not vote with the US and EU come November (when the issue of referring Iran to UN Security Council will come up again).

Noting that Indian Communists have publicly opposed confronting Iran at the IAEA, the paper said "unfortunately, California Democrat Tom Lantos has made it more difficult for India to vote the right way next time."

"Lantos boasted of the pressure he put on India's Foreign Minister over the Iranian programme when he visited Washington in early September, and suggested that he single-handedly succeeded in getting the Indians to change their position."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atom; atomicweapons; india; iran; islam; israel; lantos; missile; muslim; pakistan; tmd; wmd
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1 posted on 10/03/2005 2:21:02 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick
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To: CarrotAndStick
a leading US daily on Sunday said, while warning some American officials and lawmakers against creating the appearance of having pressurised New Delhi for its stance

I sure hope those leading officials take head to the powerful word of the media, wouldn't want those leading officials to forget their place at running our country,,,, /sarc

2 posted on 10/03/2005 2:26:46 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: CarrotAndStick

India is ONLY siding with the US on this single issue because they believe it will help them counter Pakistan's threat by access to our nuke technology.

I don't trust India any farther than I can throw them. More than 90 percent of their military is soviet trained and equipped, and the country is awash with communists. They still sell women and worship cattle, and they will burn a women to death if a dowery payment is late.

The idea of India having nukes is just as worrysome as Pakistan having them.

They haven't been a reliable ally of the west in any undertaking since the second world war.

I'm more than a little worried about the US kissing up to India these days. Its all give and no get.


3 posted on 10/03/2005 2:53:52 AM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice

Congratulations on a superb and incisive anal ysis that adequately showcases your innate brilliance and anal ytical abilities.


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4 posted on 10/03/2005 3:41:17 AM PDT by voletti (For God, Prez and country....)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Lantos is not to be trusted.


5 posted on 10/03/2005 5:47:52 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: konaice; voletti; OldFriend; sukhoi-30mki; Cronos; CarrotAndStick; razoroccam; Arjun; samsonite; ...

US wasnt expecting India to vote against Iran.

US had promised India nuke technology only to dangle a carrot and knew very well that it wouldnt have to deliver on its promise since the delivery of the technology hinged on the conditionality that India support US bid to isolate Iran. US knew very well India's stand on Iran (or did it ?). Since the US State dept wont ratify the nuclear deal anyway, the US Administration could have safely placed the blame on India for having supported Iran as being the cause for the US State dept not approving the nuclear deal.

......but then came India's famous volte-face! Now it seems the US has no answer.

Lets see if the US is able to keep its promise.

PING!


6 posted on 10/03/2005 6:33:53 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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7 posted on 10/03/2005 6:34:30 AM PDT by looky hear
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To: konaice

BTW we dont need US nuclear tech to counter Pakistan.


8 posted on 10/03/2005 6:36:40 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: CarrotAndStick; Gengis Khan; Srirangan; sukhoi-30mki

I expect Chinese agents are behind bribing journalists and congressmen to oppose India-US relationship.


9 posted on 10/03/2005 6:39:03 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: konaice

but we have very few options to counter China with the world full of anti-American idiots.


10 posted on 10/03/2005 6:43:11 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: CarrotAndStick
Nobody within the elected U.S. leadership should delude themselves into believing that India will be a lapdog of America's whims.

India has aspirations of its own, and has demonstrated the ability to achieve them.
11 posted on 10/03/2005 7:24:02 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: konaice
The idea of India having nukes is just as worrysome as Pakistan having them.

I suggest you move to India. Your tune would change.

India has no first strike policy, not so Pakistan. What keeps the Paki nutbags in check? India. (They can "worship" all the cows they want, for that.)

12 posted on 10/03/2005 7:26:54 AM PDT by ARridgerunner
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To: sure_fine
"I sure hope those leading officials take head to the powerful word of the media, wouldn't want those leading officials to forget their place at running our country,,,, /sarc"

You mean those brain dead morons are leading our country? No wonder the country is so F'ed up!
13 posted on 10/03/2005 7:28:38 AM PDT by monday
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To: Gengis Khan

Whether the US Congress goes along with the Bush proposals or not is irrelevant; the US Congress is, as Kissinger said IIRC, 535 alternative SecofStates and NationalSecAdvisers, much prone to pontificating.

What counts is the commitments made by the UK and Canada.

The Indians aren't stupid enough to believe that just because the Executive in the US proposes, its gets done.
They understand the role the US Congress has played in the past and know, that often, US foreign policy has been conducted via proxies; hence, the full commitment by the Dons of the Commonwealth.

They know they have to stay on Congress's good side, and by their Iran vote, now firmly on the Administration's side too.


14 posted on 10/03/2005 9:40:35 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Gengis Khan

Are konaice and Lantos related?


15 posted on 10/03/2005 9:48:46 AM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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>>More than 90 percent of their military is soviet trained and equipped, and the country is awash with communists.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1494806/posts

--As Major Wilson puts it: "We're also taking back with us a newfound and tremendous respect for Indian army officers and soldiers. Indian troops are as well-trained, motivated and quick as the best US soldiers." Indo-US defence cooperation seems to be on the right track.



Doesn't it scare you that the US Mil is so wholeheartedly training with, gasp, the communist military of Inja? LOL!



16 posted on 10/03/2005 9:56:45 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
The deal works to our advantage not because the US would be selling us the technology but because it paves way for others (EU, Russia, Canada or Australia) to sell India nuclear fuel or technology whether or not we vote for Iran.
 
It was always difficult for the US to deliver what it promised as part of the deal. The US untill a couple of weeks ago was dead sure that India would not vote against Iran. So any attempt by the US Congress to stall the deal could have been blamed on India (not showing support for US). The Indian vote against Iran comes unexpected. It puts the US administration at a tight spot (even though in public they would express pleasant surprise). Now they would actually have to deliver on their promise or else Indo-US relations might take a step backward. From Indian point of view India voted against Iran to aquire "US technology". The Indian Congress government took a gamble and voted against Iran (and as a result incurred the wrath of left allies and NDA opposition and also put the Indo-Pak-Iran gas pipeline in jeopardy) not for nothing. India didnt vote against Iran to get EU or Russian tech. India wants "US nuclear technology".....and it will be difficult for the US to keep its promise considering US Congress's stand on nuclear proliferation. 

17 posted on 10/03/2005 10:26:33 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Gengis Khan

I see no difference between technologies that the UK and Canada will provide from that what the US may provide.

One and the same.

IMO, smart moves by India to get what's in her best interest.

I see the US Congress as increasingly irrelevant to India in this particular issue; Congressmen are blinkered narrowvision types, and will be satisified at what India did. Whether they approve the deals that Bush wants is another matter and also, in light of the UK Canada commitments, completely irrelevant.


18 posted on 10/03/2005 10:31:46 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy

Thats not the point. There is hardly much difference between French, Russian tech and UK, Canadian tech.

Just how would it look for the Indian Congress government if the US congress stalls the deal even after India having voted in favour of the US? The Left and NDA would tear apart the Congress if the deal gets stalled (regardless of UK or Canada going ahead with their deal).

Do you think any Indian government would dare vote in favour of the US in future?


19 posted on 10/03/2005 10:53:32 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Gengis Khan

Yes, because it shows the maturing of the political leadership of India, instead of mouthing and believing platitiudes about democracy and shared values, blah blah blah, this is realpolitik. And it shows India dealing with the Executive branch, not just Congress to whom it has historically been close, especially the Democrats.
This tells Democrats that they don't have India in their pocket all the time.

I doubt the current govt did what it did unless it was confident of it's domestic political strength.

The Left and the NDA will howl, but then, they howl at almost everything. That said, I do agree with you that the US Congress will squelch the deal.


20 posted on 10/03/2005 11:03:43 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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