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To: NRA2BFree

I asked on another thread; please provide the links to the last three American college students that used an explosive device in a public area to commit suicide. Accidents while building the device do not count. The @zzhats at Columbine do not count, because the "bombs" did not kill them. Still awaiting a single link.


165 posted on 10/02/2005 7:10:29 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (The Land o' Gar (yes I have a gunrack in my truck))
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
I asked on another thread; please provide the links to the last three American college students that used an explosive device in a public area to commit suicide. Accidents while building the device do not count. The @zzhats at Columbine do not count, because the "bombs" did not kill them. Still awaiting a single link.

Good point! The reason is because they don't have an answer. I haven't heard of any students at any college that tried to use a bomb to commit suicide. In fact, other than Muslims, I haven't heard of anyone who used a bomb to blow themselves up. I'm not saying that someone didn't do it but just that I haven't heard about it if they did. That just sounds awful painful. I can think of a better way to do it, other than having your limbs blown off. :o)

176 posted on 10/02/2005 7:49:33 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

This guy could be an islamic terrorist, but he may not be. We don't know for sure. Why do you want him to be? Either way, it is not a pretty story.

I have seen so many threads where hysteria reigned and it turned out to be nothing. Now obviously this is not nothing. But it may just be a nutjob. We need to be open to ANY explanation. Otherwise we ignore information which does not fit into our own view. We cannot make a decision based on what we know now.

I do not doubt you may be right. But now, simply because there may not be another suicide like this, does not mean it has to be ISLAMIC terrorism, trained and planned by AQ. That does not mean this young man did not have an agenda. Maybe he was a war protester. Who knows? Maybe he didn't mean to kill himself. Maybe he wanted to blow up the KU bus. Maybe he wanted attention. Maybe he hated football players. Maybe he just wanted to kill to see what it was like.


178 posted on 10/02/2005 7:55:17 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Not exactly what you're seeking, but >>>

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5022536/detail.html

Bomb Defendant Pleads Guilty To Misdemeanor
September 26, 2005

OKLAHOMA CITY -- A University of Oklahoma student charged with bringing an explosive device to an airport pleaded guilty Monday to a misdemeanor charge in federal court in Oklahoma City.

Charles Alfred Dreyling Jr. faces up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine at a future sentencing hearing.

Federal sentencing guidelines could recommend a prison term of as little as four months, but he could be eligible for some form of probation.

Dreyling, 24, was arrested in August at Will Rogers World Airport after security personnel noticed a suspicious object in his carryon bag as he was leaving for a family vacation with his parents.

Dreyling later told FBI agents the device -- a modified carbon dioxide cartridge filled with gunpowder -- was "basically a pipe bomb," according to court papers. He said he had forgotten it was in his bag.

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(FWIW, pipe bombs in OK are no novelty, but it's usually high school or middle school kids that get caught with them. Happens every year and started pre-9/11...kids fiddling with formulas they find on the internet. The only novelty here is that the guy was in college...much older and smarter than the usual pipe bomb suspects.)


191 posted on 10/02/2005 8:26:27 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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