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Nuclear option escalates jihad threat
The Australian ^ | October 01, 2005 | Greg Sheridan

Posted on 10/01/2005 7:43:47 AM PDT by Mount Athos

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21 posted on 10/01/2005 10:18:00 AM PDT by DC Bound (American greatness is the result of great individuals seeking to be anything but equal.)
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I wish I could believe that. Frankly, the PC crowd has such a long track record of ignoring reality that its hard see them coming to their senses, even if the Jihadists used nukes on us.

Their isn't going to be any time for ignoring reality or anyone coming to their senses once the 1st nuke goes off. The response triggers will be pulled without any time for PC to interfere and the end result will be the end of Islam and a large part of the rest of the world. The war on terror will have been won at a price that should never have been paid. There is still the chance we shall be the trigger pullers and I relish the thought of Mecca being turned into glass before a civilized city has to be sacrificed.

22 posted on 10/01/2005 6:24:34 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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Your scenario is more applicable to the days of the Cold War, when you knew exactly where missile launches came from. Unfortunately, with our current adversary, it isn't that black and white. Who do we strike out against? Do we take out countries where the terrorists may have originated from, even though the Government an erst-while ally (e.g., Pakistan and Saudi Arabia)?

Your assertion that we just take our Mecca isn't realistic. Responses aren't just blind spasms, they are based on war plans (existing or to be developed). Somehow I doubt that there are war plans that include the automatic destruction of Mecca before a lot of the Whos get answered after an attack.

My point in all this is that it took us about a month to respond in Afghanistan after 911. I think it will probably take 2-3 weeks to respond appropriately after a nuke attack. During that period, you're going to have every major newspaper, TV channel (sans Fox), and many Democratic politicians calling for "restraint". It will be very hard in that environment to respond with nukes.


23 posted on 10/02/2005 6:40:17 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Mount Athos
If we are attacked with nukes, the phrase " your either with us or your against us" will come to into play. I'm afraid there will be many who are against us if we decide to retaliate.
24 posted on 10/02/2005 7:06:40 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: rbg81
Your scenario is more applicable to the days of the Cold War, when you knew exactly where missile launches came from. Unfortunately, with our current adversary, it isn't that black and white. Who do we strike out against? Do we take out countries where the terrorists may have originated from, even though the Government an erst-while ally (e.g., Pakistan and Saudi Arabia)?

The response will be initiated before the incoming missile(s) hit the ground. The targets have already been selected and nothing will be able to save the guilty or innocent but 1 thing for sure the guilty will be on the target list.

25 posted on 10/02/2005 7:17:52 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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The response will be initiated before the incoming missile(s) hit the ground.

That's classic Cold War thinking. It's much more likely that a freighter under a neutral flag will sail into New York harbor and dock. The crew will pass thru customs and depart for the airport and in a few hours the nuke will go off. IOW think Sum of All Fears NOT Doctor Strangelove.

26 posted on 10/02/2005 1:30:22 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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That's classic Cold War thinking. It's much more likely that a freighter under a neutral flag will sail into New York harbor and dock. The crew will pass thru customs and depart for the airport and in a few hours the nuke will go off. IOW think Sum of All Fears NOT Doctor Strangelove.

Really. The scenario being discussed was a missile attack. I held a key as a NORAD officer. I can assure you the response would have occurred before anything incoming hit the ground. I can also assure you however a nuclear device is delivered the response has already been predetermined. Not only predetermined but those who chose to deliver a device have been forewarned what the targets will be hit in response.

27 posted on 10/02/2005 5:20:13 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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Sorry! My bad. I THOUGHT we were discussing the current situation. Of course you are 100% correct. If you'll refer back to my post I state that it's much more likely (current timeline) that a freighter will be the delivery vehicle rather than an incoming missile, which would of course be suicide for whatever nation launches against us.
28 posted on 10/02/2005 6:15:01 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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