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This Brower guy in the lede seems vaguely familiar ... :-) I wanted to post this to the Bang list; is putting it in the Keywords enough? I'm not exactly a power-user here.
1 posted on 10/01/2005 5:54:24 AM PDT by hemogoblin
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"But others who feel uneasy about the legislation say it could turn Florida into the Wild West."

And the problem is?


2 posted on 10/01/2005 5:55:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (New Orleans rebuild by Mexican Labor will produce crawfish tacos and menuedo-gumbo.)
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To: hemogoblin

We're working on a similar law here in Michigan.


3 posted on 10/01/2005 5:56:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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http://www.joebrower.com/


4 posted on 10/01/2005 5:58:57 AM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: hemogoblin
These are the same gun banners who wildly predicted back in 1987 that Florida's adoption of shall issue CCW would result in a "Wild West" atmosphere and the streets running red with blood. The Democrats controlled the state then and in the 18 years since nothing happened that validated their scare talk. With regards to the new self-defense law, they're trotting out the same arguments they employed back in 1987. I'm betting nothing will change after today. You would think these people were capable of embarrassment; apparently not. Its amazing how common sense makes some people take leave of their mental faculties.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
6 posted on 10/01/2005 6:01:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, is warning tourists to stay away from Florida for their own safety."

Joining the ACLU as an anti-American organization.

7 posted on 10/01/2005 6:01:12 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: hemogoblin; Joe Brower
putting "BANG" and "BANGLIST" as keywords gets it done.

Joe - Keep fighting the good fight!

8 posted on 10/01/2005 6:08:21 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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Congratulations Florida! Today is ANOTHER Red-Letter day for the Florida Constitution that respects rights of law abiding citizens.

Gosh, I hate living in NJ. :-(

9 posted on 10/01/2005 6:08:40 AM PDT by paulcissa (Only YOU can prevent liberalism.)
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To: hemogoblin; Joe Brower

we could ping him.


10 posted on 10/01/2005 6:08:52 AM PDT by glock rocks (Just don't molest the flamingoes)
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To: hemogoblin

This law is now being pushed in Michigan. I'd get on my rep's case about supporting it, but he's already on board as a sponsor.


12 posted on 10/01/2005 6:11:55 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My Gov'nor don't got the answer")
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To: hemogoblin

The colt 45 the worlds greatist equilizer, makes the old as strong as the young.


15 posted on 10/01/2005 6:14:16 AM PDT by zipp_city
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"Gun law critics fear state will become O.K. Corral"

After the headline, I didn't bother reading the "news" story.
Apparently the idiot writer or headline writer thinks history started when he/she/it was born and did not bother to check. The gunfight at the OK Corral took place when the town law enforcement officials attempted to arrest the Clanton faction for carrying weapons in violation of the town ordnances. An arrest! Cops against the perps! Not just a couple of gangs going at it as they do in most major cities now. In the 21st century!
For craps sake, is there anything in newspapers that can be believed?
16 posted on 10/01/2005 6:16:42 AM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
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To: Joe Brower; hemogoblin; JulieRNR21; MinuteGal; dawn53; floriduh voter

WooHoo! Good work, Joe!


17 posted on 10/01/2005 6:17:44 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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But others who feel uneasy about the legislation say it could turn Florida into the Wild West.

The "others" are baboon brained boobs.

19 posted on 10/01/2005 6:19:41 AM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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But for some unrelated shortcomings, Florida could now be entitled to adopt a new motto: "The Polite State."


25 posted on 10/01/2005 6:35:49 AM PDT by Graymatter
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Maybe the brady bunch should stay the # out of Florida.


26 posted on 10/01/2005 6:35:56 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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"This sounds good now," Bill Burke said. "But we're worried about that guy in traffic that's tailgating. What if I start tailgating him and he feels threatened? He could get angry and pull out a gun and shoot me."

And I guess this never, ever, ever happens now..even in states with stringent gun control..


27 posted on 10/01/2005 6:37:22 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Honest officer, I wasn't speeding.....I was qualifying)
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"One national group, The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, is warning tourists to stay away from Florida for their own safety."

Sure they should be scared. If I were a bad guy, who would I rather rob/carjack/mug..a Florida resident who MAY be armed, or a tourist couple straight out of the airport who I KNOW doesn't have a weapon??...


29 posted on 10/01/2005 6:43:13 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Honest officer, I wasn't speeding.....I was qualifying)
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I truly hate how the media has mischaracterized the law.

What this is REALLY about is the TORT REFORM encompassed in this law.

LAWYERS ARE BEING DENIED ACCESS TO INSURANCE MONEY CLAIMS!

FOLLOW THE MONEY!

When I have discussed this with my fellow lawyers, MONEY is the root of their concern NOT lives. This law threatenes gun control groups like brady FAR more than criminals.

The CAN NOT attack people who defend themselves under this law.


30 posted on 10/01/2005 6:46:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Criminals are not stupid. Likely, they'll move to states where these laws don't exist to avoid the chance of being confronted by a gun.


33 posted on 10/01/2005 6:55:31 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
A-yep -- the "Joe Brower" quoted here is yours truly. This reporter called me last night and we spoke for about 20 minutes. I gave her TONS of great quotes and talking points, including a refutation of the hysterical headline which, of course, was not given ink.

Trouble is, I never said "wild kingdom"; I said "animal kingdom", and a pejorative was substituted. And as for the "Survival of the fittest" bit, well, she just made that up completely. I have to get a pocket tape recorder so I have some evidence to back me up next time when I take the SHT to civil court for defamation.

Which should serve as a lesson to all of us when we deal with the media -- even when you watch every word, nothing will stop these newscritters from hearing whatever they want to hear. Sheesh -- newsies wonder why no one believes a thing they say any more -- gee, I wonder why? And the newspeople wonder why firearms-owners are so relucant to talk to them. Boy, that's a tough one to figure out!

But who knows? Maybe some highly un-PC talk will shake up a few folks. They sure could use it.

Stay safe, everyone.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

38 posted on 10/01/2005 7:46:17 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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