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"He [BJ Clinton] is an unusually good liar, unusually good." (Sen. Bob Kerry - D. Neb.) quoted in Esquire magazine article in the mid-90s
1 posted on 09/30/2005 11:05:53 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

Primates lie. The higher primates lie more.


47 posted on 10/01/2005 7:39:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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Such brains might also be good for playing games of strategy such as chess. It would be very interesting if research found that liars played chess better than honest people.


48 posted on 10/01/2005 7:40:26 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Couple thoughts that aren't addressed in the article. Do other people who aren't liars have the same extra white matter? And, if liars have this different kind of brain, it seems to this simpleton that the brain could have developed in that manner because of their habit of lying. Just like muscles develop if you use them, and atrophy if you don't.

And even if some people are born with "lying brains" - it just means they need to struggle harder to overcome that temptation, just as everyone needs to struggle with perhaps different temptations. We aren't the brain - it's just like a computer we're using for a while. It looks as though this kind of information, if accurate, could be used by those promoting "born that way and can't help it"-driven agendas.

Some ethnic groups, for instance Native Americans, are more prone to alcoholism due to something I can't remember - some physiological inability to metabolize alcohol, maybe someone else knows. But that doesn't exonerate them. No one forces someone to take that first, second, or thrid drink. We all have our own individual set of weaknesses, and the responsibility to overcome them.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.

Final note: One of these days, we will each have to account for everything we've done. No excuses allowed - whether it's "the Devil made me do it" or "my brain made me do it". Nope. But the good part is that no matter how strong any tendency is, and how we weak we may be, God is stronger than every temptation, every evil, and can and will help us to the degree we beg Him to. It is said that a surrendered soul depends not even slightly on his own strength, but entirely on the strength of God.


51 posted on 10/01/2005 7:54:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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I have a relative who is such a liar that she lies much more often than she tells the truth.

If anyone has been around her for awhile they realize she does it and just learn to ignore her.

I used to date a girl who was basically honest but when she did lie, was so good at it that even knowing for certain she was lying, I found myself believing her.

I don't know which is worse.

52 posted on 10/01/2005 8:01:14 PM PDT by yarddog
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To identify such a large number of aberrant psychologically disturbed people from such a small sample size is suspicious.



57 posted on 10/02/2005 12:49:37 AM PDT by Bon mots
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Body and soul comprise an organic unity. When the the soul is deformed by the will with lies, it stands to reason that the body would be affected. The scientists have cause and effect reversed. It's impossible for simple matter to make a choice for evil, which is what a lie is.


74 posted on 10/03/2005 5:05:55 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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John 8:44 (KJV)

“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”


75 posted on 10/04/2005 9:06:59 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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